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I.
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Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


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How to promote an accepted hook

  • See Ingenpedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
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    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
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    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
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  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

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Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 21

Chisapani Gadhi

  • ... that females are not allowed to go inside the Chisapani Gadhi, Nepal? Source: [1] "We were baffled as the caretaker informed us that women were barred from entry here"

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 18:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new enough and long enough. AGFing on the various Nepali sources. I am bothered by the similarity between The fort, which is spread on four bighas of land, was constructed in 1801BS during the rule of the Sen king in Makwanpur. The fort was used for military, administrative, trade and immigration purposes after the annexation of Makwanpur to Nepal in 1819 BS. Historians said there was a court, a check post and an office of Badahakim, a post equivalent to the governor of the region, on the premises of the fort. in the source and The Chisapani Gadhi is an ancient fort in Bhimphedi that was built during the unification of Nepal around the Sen rule in Makwanpur.[1] After it was annexed to the Kingdom of Nepal, it was used for military, administrative, trade and immigration.[1] Some historians say that in the fort there was a "court, a check post and an office of Badahakim, a post equivalent to the governor of the region".[1] , even with the quote it comes off like close paraphrasing. The grammar is also a little off - "military, administrative, trade and immigration", " and she added that local resident created a rumour that she died." and "Gadhi was being renovation and conservation" are just examples. Why is the funding provided by the provincial government not included? I am not sure that #2 mentions the fort in the context given. The image is properly licenced but it appears to be located in a different fort than the article claims. QPQ is low-hanging fruit, but passable. Hook is interesting and sourced inline, but the article has too many issues for me to feel comfortable approving it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some grammar fixes are still needed. Also, I've asked for a Nepali reader to check the sources at WT:DYK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nepali: "चिसापानी गढीको कारणले नै युद्ध गर्न आएका अङ्ग्रेजहरु यस क्षेत्रमा आउन नसकेर सिमभन्ज्याङतर्फ मोडिन बाध्य भएको इतिहास रहेको छ" Source
  • English: The Britsh came to attack the Chisapani Gadhi but they could not so they went to Sim Bhanjyang instead.
  • Nepali: "कर्नेल रणवीरसिंह थापा मुख्य कमान्डर । कोशी नदी पश्चिम र नारायणी नदी पूर्वको सेक्टर कमान्डर थिए । उनले सुमेश्वर गढी, उपरदाङ गढी, कविलास गढी, कान्द्राङ गढी, चिसापानी गढी, मकवानपुर किल्ला, ढुंगे गढी, डढुवा गढी, हरिहरपुर गढी, अम्वास गढी, हरिहरपुर किल्ला, सिन्धुली गढी, उदयपुर गढी, चौदण्डी गढी लगायत सेना तैनाथी गराए" Source
  • English: Ranabir Singh Thapa was in charge of the west and east of Narayani River. He deployed soldiers in .....(the source talks about others forts he had put forces in)........ Chisapani Gadhi.
  • Nepali: "चिसापानीमा बटुक भैरवको मन्दिर छ, जहाँ महिलालाई प्रवेश निषेध छ" Source
  • English: There is a temple where females are not allowed.
  • Nepali: "यस विषयमा बेलाबेला महिला अधिकारवादीले आवाज उठाई रहेका पनि छन्" Source
  • English: In the past, females have protested against the "no females allowed" rule.
  • Nepali: "मन्दिरमा प्रवेश गरे अनिष्ट हुने र ज्यान नै जान सक्ने मनोवैज्ञानिक त्रास फैलाइएको छ । तोप पड्काउँदाको आवाजले महिलाको गर्भ खेर गएकाले जान हुँदैन भन्ने मान्यता रहेको स्थानीयहरू बताउँछन्" source
  • English: If a female goes inside they will become unlucky or die. Some people say the when the big cannon was fired the noise that came from it caused some miscarriages.
  • Nepali: "२०६० मंसीरमा पहिलो पटक त्यहाँ पुगेकी हुँ। पत्रकारिता तालिमको सहभागी भएर स्थलगत भ्रमणमा गढी जाँदा महिलाले तोप हेर्न नहुने र मन्दिर पनि जान नहुने भनेर लेखिएको सूचना देखेपछि छक्क परें । साथीहरू र तालिमका प्रशिक्षकले नजानू भने पनि पसें । मेरो घर हेटौंडा भएकाले त्यो बाटो परेका वेला र त्यसपछि पनि पटक पटक मन्दिर पसेकी छु "। source
  • English: I went there in 2060 N.S.. I was surprised by the sign which read no females allowed. My friends told me not to go but I went anyway. I live in Hetuda so I have travelled this road many times and visited the temple.
  • Nepali: "मलाई आजसम्म कुनै अनिष्ट भएको छैन, तर चिसापानीतिर मेरो बारे ४/५ वर्षअघिसम्म अफवाह चलेको रहेछ । चिसापानी गढी नजिकैको होटलतिर ‘१५/१६ वर्षअघि पत्रकारको टोलीमा आएकी एउटी केटी मन्दिरभित्र पसेकी थिई, पछि मरिछ’ भन्दा रहेछन् । मान्छे मरेको कुरा पनि केही आधार नभई गर्दा रहेछन् भन्ने प्रमाण हो यो" source
  • English: I am not dead as of now. The people in Chisapani told others about my death (about four or five years ago). ......................
  • So what happened to the DYKAGF rule. Anyway, I translated the whole article for you. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but when close paraphrasing is involved then I look a bit more closely than DYKAGF would warrant. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notes:
    1. #3:
      • Article: "During the Anglo-Nepalese War, commander Ranabir Singh Thapa deployed many soldiers inside the fort."
        • Source: "Colonel Ranabir Singh Thapa [was] chief Commander. He was the sector commander between Koshi and Narayani rivers. He deployed his troops to Sumeshwar Gadhi, Upardang Gadhi, ..., Chisapani Gadhi, ..."
    2. #4:
      • Article: "But the forces did not directly face the East India Company. Thapa at the Makwanpur Gadhi stopped the British troops from getting into the fort subsequently they went to attack the Sim Bhanjyang, Nepal."
        • Source: "There is a history that the English who had come to fight could not come to this region because of Chisapani fort and were forced to divert toward Simbhanjyang." Note that, along with this one, the article cites another source that's not in Nepali for the same text.
      • Article: "The fort also contains a Bhariva Temple."
        • Source: "The Batuk Bhairava temple, which is also in this area, also has a long history."
    3. #6:
      • Article: "Females are not allowed to go inside the fort."
        • Source: "There is a Batuk Bhairava temple in Chisapani; women are prohibited from entering the temple."
    4. #7 (Note that this website lists a three member team[2]; they appear to be locals)
      • Article: "Females are not allowed to go inside the fort." " Many women have protested against this in the past."
        • Source: "...and women are prohibited from entering the fort." "Women rights activists have raised their voice on this subject from time to time."
    5. #8 (#9 is also the same source, so I'll cover both here)
      • Article: "There is a myth circulating that if a woman enters they might die or become unlucky. Some local residents say that the sound of the big cannon firing caused miscarriages. Journalist Durga Lamichhane went inside the fort and the temple many times; she reported that she did not have any miscarriages, and Lamichhane said that the local residents created a rumour that she had died."
        • Source: "Psychological fear has been spread that entering the temple could bring anishta, even death.(I can't think of a good translation for "anishta"; it's somewhere among "bad omen", "bad luck", "disaster", "tragedy"; google translate identifies the word as Bengali and translates it as "evil" among other things) But many women have entered there multiple times. According to locals, there is a belief that [women] should not go there because the sound of the cannon firing caused miscarriages in women." "Durga Lamichhane: I have been to Chisapani Gadhi and the Batuk Bhairava temple in its premises four times... I have never faced any anishta to this day, but, I found out that there were false rumours about me circulating around Chisapani until 4-5 years ago. In roadside restaurants near Chisapani they used to say, "15-16 years ago, a girl from a team of journalists had entered the temple, she died later.""
I hope this is enough. I would gladly assist with copyediting also, if that would be desirable. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. That said, Symbol redirect vote 4.svg as it looks like the source interpretation is a wee bit liberal - "Women rights activists have raised their voice on this subject from time to time" does not automatically equal "many" nor "protested against"; I've certainly seen feminists defending the burqa so I would not categorically assume that in such cases it's "protested against". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In context, it does mean "protested against" though it's an intellectual protest not a physical one ("spoken out against" may be better), but yes, "many women" should be "women rights activists". Another thing I noticed was the claim "she reported that she did not have any miscarriages"; I don't remember seeing that in the source. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 01:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: @Usedtobecool: Where does this nomination stand? Maybe it should be failed. SL93 (talk) 08:13, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It needs a new review; I am a bit too uneasy with the source interpretation and am not familiar enouh with the culture to evaluate it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 27

Die Schutzbefohlenen

Scene at the Burgtheater, 2015
Scene at the Burgtheater, 2015
  • ... that Die Schutzbefohlenen (Charges or The Supplicants), a 2013 text by Elfriede Jelinek dealing critically with refugee politics at the time, was staged in Vienna in 2015 (scene pictured)? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: I'm sorry, I am late again, and this time I simply forgot to nominate, - it was long and sourced enough from the beginning - I think.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:57, 4 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • General eligibility:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - Mmm, I think the article has potential but the hook could be better. First, "dealing critically with" is vague. Maybe something about asking the question whether EU policies are in line with values? Consider that most readers are probably not from EU, might not remember about the 2015 refugee crisis.

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol question.svg I am happy to ignore 1 day late because you are such a nice editor (: (t · c) buidhe 10:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for review and lenience - please remember that this was 2013, not 2016 when it got hotter. I am often told that catching attraction is more important than precision in a hook, - not that I agree. - Agree that the article could be better, there's MUCH more in German, if someone is inclined and has the time. - Will look here again later. (Someone died who has no article, and I had an article plan for today.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ps: what's the expression for values we took from the ancient Greeks? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Clerodendrum quadriloculare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Buidhe, I reworded the value thing, please check.
ALT1: ... that Die Schutzbefohlenen (Charges or The Supplicants), a 2013 text by Elfriede Jelinek critical of refugee politics at the time, was staged in Vienna in 2015 (scene pictured)?
I'd hesitate to restrict it to the EU, for a global audience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but this is really vague. Critical of which refugee politics, and how? I mean, neo-Nazis were also "critical of refugee politics at the time", from the other direction. (t · c) buidhe 20:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gerda, can we finish this up please? Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have an idea? I'm reviewing (Buidhe's) at the moment, then will turn to the musicologist who died. We can't retell the play in on sentence, but also can't say nothing about it. Help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2: ... that although Die Schutzbefohlenen (Charges or The Supplicants) was written by Elfriede Jelinek as language art for Vienna in 2013, it was performed as a reading in Hamburg that year, and was staged at the Burgtheater two years later (scene pictured)?
@Gerda Arendt: I believe Alt2 is too complicated/rather technical and not very hooky. I think a note about the background/theme would be more fitting than a retelling of the performance history. And the article clearly states that it is about the EU policy and mingration, so it wouldn't make sense to blur that for an international audience. How about a compromise like one of these (also @Yoninah):
For ALT4, "deals with" might not be optimal phrasing, and perhaps should be "revolves around" or "explores". My English skills fail me a bit there; a native might be able to word this better.
(Somewhat unrelated, I believe that "Schutzbefohlene" would literally translate into English rather as "wards", "protégés" or sth like this. The "charges/supplicants" thing is stated in the source, but seems to me to be a translation error stemming from when you type the Polish translation into Google Translate, which then gives "charges" as an alternate translation for Podopieczni.) --LordPeterII (talk) 13:56, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Good ideas, only "immigration" seems not quite right (and doesn't appear in the article, afaik), because the policy was to rather deny refugees the right to immigrate into Austria. Re the translations: I took them as sources have them. "Wards" or "Wardens" would capture the meaning, but a literally literal translation would be "those entrusted to protection". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe simply replace the word "immigrantion" with "refugees" then? I understand that the play highlights the problems (I'm from Germany and quite aware of the whole recent developments), I just wanted a way to quickly point at the general topic with as few words as possible for the hook. It's a bit problematic that she was almost prophetic in writing that before the Migrant Crisis really started in 2014, so we can't link to that article easily. As for the translation, I think my problem is just with "literally" then. You have captured the German meaning quite well with "those entrusted to protection", but you're also right that's simply not what the sources state. Thus, I would propose to just drop the 'literally' and rather write translated as "Charges (The Supplicants)" or sth like this in the article. In any case, it doesn't need to be in the hook, the original German name suffices imo. --LordPeterII (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - I'm rather busy (Beethoven, DYK?), - can you perhaps change the hook (ALT4 preferred), and the article regarding the translation? The title is a piece of language art itself, and all English phrases don't capture that. Footnote perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I love what you added, - added you as contributor here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so I've looked into clarifying the title, and finally stumbled upon what the problem was: It is that both the German and the English titles are allusions to the Ancient Greek play by Aeschylus, which is called The Suppliants in English, and de:Die Schutzflehenden (Aischylos) in German. So it is intentionally not a literal translation! I've included that info into the article along with some sources to reference. I've also made some other minor changes, so maybe take a quick look at the article again Gerda Arendt. But that also means that we have potentially some more hooks available, like these (could also be mixed to create even more options):

I believe to satisfy the criteria these new ALTs might require some more precise inline citations, so if you would like one of them I can try to add such one. But of course, maybe the simple one would still be okay (I switched the wikilink for humanitarian because the other article was specifically about UN stuff):

  • ALT4a: ... that Elfriede Jelinek created Die Schutzbefohlenen as a "language artwork" which deals with humanitarian values and refugees? --LordPeterII (talk) 09:44, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Excellent options, thank you! I like ALT6 best, added (scene pictured) to that one, - no time for the others right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Good. So @Buidhe or @Yoninah (not sure who is responsible), can this be approved with ALT6? Not sure if this needs to be more explicitly stated in the article in a single line, but it becomes obvious once you read the synopsis of Aeschylus' play. If that hook requires further editing in the DYK article, let me know. --LordPeterII (talk) 11:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    (minor change again to ALT6, to make it - like the article itself - adhere to the MOS on foreign terms, and thus also to the supplementary DYK rule C10.) --LordPeterII (talk) 16:06, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 30

Mitchell Miller (ice hockey)

Moved to mainspace by Bait30 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough. And the hook is technically accurate. However, I have two significant concerns here. First, the hook misleadingly suggests he was a top pick in the NHL draft when, in fact, he chosen in the fourth round with the 111th pick (Arizona traded or forfeited its picks in the first three rounds). Second, the article concerns an amateur athlete who has received significant coverage principally for his conviction in a juvenile court of bullying a developmentally disabled teen. This raises a significant IN:BLP1E concerns. Cbl62 (talk) 20:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The publicity given to the incident is particularly troubling given that Ohio juvenile court records and proceedings are designated confidential by law. See here, page 11 ("Most court and police records about your juvenile case in Ohio are confidential and not available to the public, which means that people cannot find information about your juvenile record the same way they can look up information about an adult criminal record."). Several media outlets ignored this policy, but I do not think Ingenpedia should be exacerbating the situation on its most viewed page. Cbl62 (talk) 20:32, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I personally don't think BLP1E applies because he received coverage from reliable sources for hockey-related stuff before his controversy was exposed. However, I do understand not wanting to put it on the front page due to the weight of the bullying incident in the article.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. It would be helpful to get input from DYK gurus before making a final call on this one. @Gatoclass: @Yoninah: @Cwmhiraeth: @Maile66: Could one or more of you weigh in on the appropriateness of featuring this on the Main Page? Cbl62 (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg The hook focuses on negative aspects of a person's life. If there is nothing nice to say, it should not be included in DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 03:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Flibirigit: @Cbl62: Would this work?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 22:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Thanks for coming up with a different hook. Alt1 is short enough, interesting enough, accurate, and backed by in-line citation. However, in running an earwig copyvio test on the article, an issue was detected that can be seen here. In particular, there is an extended quote from Coyotes General Manager Bill Armstrong that is drawn directly from an Azcentral piece. You will need to fix this before the article can appear on the Main Page. Cbl62 (talk) 22:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but while the all-USHL selection is mentioned and cited, there is no cite for the 33 points as a defenseman. Yoninah (talk) 13:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: Done.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 19:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The "Career statistics" section needs a citation for the chart. I suggest using hockeydb.com or eliteprospects.com for this. Cheers. Flibirigit (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you both. Restoring tick per Cbl62's review. Yoninah (talk) 20:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg Per this discussion at IN:ERRORS, this hook was pulled from the main page. A more suitable hook is required for this article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 00:32, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is absolutely ridiculous. Here are some suggestions:
I made sure to link "general manager" because it's usage in sports is mainly confined to the US and Canada and I don't want English speakers to be confused with my usage of American. I found out just how different American is from English, so I made sure to add an excess amount of context. That way, an actual English speaker could come by and hopefully whittle it down and translate it into proper English.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 03:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 is far too long (above the 200 character limit). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I was being extra IN:POINT-y last night and I’m sorry about that. I won’t be able to make proper adjustments right now as I’m not at my laptop. I’ll try shorten the hooks later.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've struck ALT2 but the possibility of a shorter hook based on that remains. As for ALT3, the words "hockey" and "league" are used multiple times in the hook, although in the case of "ice hockey" it may be unavoidable since the consensus was to specify that the hockey in question is of the ice variety. "League" is used three times and at least one of them probably needs to go to avoid redundancy. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that’s one of the reasons I disagreed and overreacted. Here’s a new alt:
ALT4: ... that league executives voted ice hockey player Mitchell Miller as one of the best blueliners in the United States Hockey League?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 01:14, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Are you going to review this hook, or should I put the red DYK?again icon and request a new review?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 18:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Probably need a new review, I was just helping out here with the "new hook needed" discussion. Pinging Cbl62 and Flibirigit for their thoughts on the new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:03, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New review is needed here. Flibirigit (talk) 00:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the new hook (alt4) is fine. It's short, hooky (the "blueliner" bit is good as non-hockey fans may be intrigued by what that is), and accurate. The only hesitation I have is that the article/source don't literally say he was "selected as one of the best defencmen/blueliners". Instead, they say he was selected to the All-USHL team. Most anyone familiar with team sports knows that those two things are the same, i.e., that all-conference honors means a player is being selected as one of the best in the league at his position. All in all, I think it's an accurate hook. Cbl62 (talk) 00:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cbl62, I thought so too, but the people in the discussion Lee linked above thought it was complete gibberish and unworthy of the front page. Someone told me that “this is English Ingenpedia, not American Ingenpedia”.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 01:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Friendly suggestions: The article needs an "Early life" section directly after the introduction. It should include where and when Miller was born with citations, and basic information about family or where he grew up and played minor hockey if known. Currently, the birth date and location are not cited anywhere in the article. Cheers. Flibirigit (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Flibirigit, sorry for the late reply. I added an early life section, but it's only one sentence that contains birth date, location, parents, and citations. I'm not really an avid hockey fan, so I'm not sure where I would find info about youth hockey.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 19:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. A full review is still needed here. Flibirigit (talk) 22:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cbl62: Is it okay if you give this a second look? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I noted above that I think alt 4 hook is fine: short enough, hooky and accurate. IMO the reservation that I raised is not something that should cause the hook not to run. Cbl62 (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 6

A Little Lower Than the Angels (novel)

  • ... that Latter-Day Saint Apostle John A. Widtsoe gave A Little Lower than the Angels a negative review for Virginia Sorensen's portrayal of Joseph Smith as an "ordinary, insipid milk and water figure"? Source: Howe, Susan Elizabeth (2002). "Virginia Sorensen's A Little Lower Than the Angels and John A. Widtsoe; A Lesson in Literary History". Annual (Association for Mormon letters): 87–94.
    • ALT1:... that Virginia Sorensen's main characters in A Little Lower than the Angels were based on her own grandparents, who brought books across the plains as pioneers? Source: Sorensen, Virgina (1980). "'If You Are a Writer, You Write!': an interview with Virginia Sorensen". Dialogue. 13: 17–36.

Created by Bassknight(byu) (talk). Self-nominated at 21:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As most sources are offline, unable to check for close paraphrasing. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits.
  • Please look at how I edited the article to bring it in line with other Ingenpedia book articles.
  • Neither hook is accurate. ALT0 is rather wordy and includes a quote that doesn't appear in the article. ALT1 is so-so in terms of interest but the article says it was her great-grandparents, not her grandparents. If you have any corrections or new hook ideas, please add them to the bottom of this thread. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Valereee: this is no different than other editors who have (byu) in their usernames. They use the LDS library to write about LDS subjects, but try to be factual and impartial. This is a new editor who is still learning Ingenpedia style. Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, his user page says he's paid by the library to create articles about them. —valereee (talk) 19:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Valereee: This is the same statement given by User:Rachel Helps (BYU), our first and longtime BYU editor, and User:Cstickel(byu). Yoninah (talk) 19:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, do we have consensus on whether this is a major COI or not? I've seen Rachel Helps around before, but the statement that "I am an employee at the Harold B. Lee library at Brigham Young University (BYU), hired to write and edit Ingenpedia articles related to the University and its history" is pretty plain. Have we had an RfC on this at COIN? —valereee (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
valereee I am not aware of any consensus. I've been reviewing these articles for years and they all seem straightforward and impartial. Yoninah (talk) 20:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, I'm really uncomfortable with it. If we haven't had one, maybe we need an RfC. I believe the Mormons are a well-intentioned lot. I don't believe they'd intentionally violate our rules. That doesn't mean they don't have a COI that needs to be examined. —valereee (talk) 20:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Valereee: OK, go ahead and open an RfC. These are the 3 editors that I'm aware of. Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: Thank you for your help with this article! This is my first original article, and definitely was showing it. How flexible can these hooks be grammar-wise? I know that they need to be quotes from the article itself, but most of the sentences in the article don't make sense on their own without the context/antecedents. Should I edit the article to repeat book and person names more frequently? My next best idea for a hook would be from the "Publication" section: "The success of the novel outside of Utah was credited in some part to the open way Sorensen portrayed this early Mormon culture in a human, unthreatening way." I'll work with Rachel to get you something better. Thank you again! Bassknight(byu) (talk) 19:57, 30 November 2020‎ (UTC)[reply]
  • The nominator hasn't edited since their above message on November 30th. Since this is an LDS-related topic, I'm pinging Rachel Helps (BYU) asking them for their assistance and to see if they're willing to adopt this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:20, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Naruto, the article isn't neutral, or rather the lead isn't. This isn't an "impartial" account of plural marriage but a highly critical one. See, for example, Moos (2005), p. 132. SarahSV (talk) 22:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If that's the case, then if no one else is willing to adopt this then unfortunately the nomination will have to be closed as abandoned. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It hasn't been abandoned. But if the neutrality and COI issues aren't resolved, it may have to be closed as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 23:14, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless, given that the nominator isn't editing at the moment, another editor will need to address the concerns for this to pass. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:12, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 10

In Praise of Blood

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:17, 10 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough, well-cited, and was new enough when nominated. Copyvio check OK. Hook length OK. Good effort in article to create balance on a controversial topic. QPQ done. Ready to go. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:31, 26 November 2020 (UTC) -->[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the first part of the hook, with the quote, doesn't appear in the article. Yoninah (talk) 13:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: the quote was there when I reviewed it but the article has come under attack and seems to be unstable at the moment. I think we need to wait until there is a stable version before we point to it from the main page. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:01, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol question.svg OK. Please keep us updated. Yoninah (talk) 15:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Buidhe, Yoninah, and Narutolovehinata5:, Not yet, sorry. The article was disputed, then frozen, and is now to be rebuilt. I hope to be more helpful soon, after family Christmas subsides. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 11

Alligator Rainwear

  • ... that an Alligator in PVC gave Mary Quant a wet look? Source: "Quant launched her 'Wet Collection' in April 1963 at the Hôtel de Crillon, Paris, featuring entirely PVC garments. ... The material was so innovative that it took another two years before a collaboration with British manufacturer Alligator Rainwear resulted in a commercially viable range of Mary Quant PVC raincoats." ([3])

Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 01:20, 17 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Unless the intention was to make the hook vague on purpose (or invite readers to read the Alligator link), I don't think the hook works unless you know what PVC is or are familiar with Quant. Could something less vague be suggested here too? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes it is deliberately ambiguous and intended for the final slot as there are no suitable free images for a picture hook. I think ALT1 will make a good hook there. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:35, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Narutolovehinata5, surely all hooks ought to aim to get the reader to click on a link. Quant, Dior and Chanel have been called the three most important fashion designers of the 20th century. PVC is a commonly used and well-known material, not just in fashion. Edwardx (talk) 11:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the hook could work as an AFD hook with the current wording, but otherwise it still seems too vague personally. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Edwardx: Would you be okay with the nomination running as an April Fools Day hook? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and is free from close paraphrasing. Whispy provided a QPQ. The "Wet Look" wording is only mentioned (uncited) in the lede, and Mary Quant is not linked in the body but only in the lede. In fact, several statements in the lede are only mentioned there (without a reference) and are not found anywhere else in the article. In addition, the "Recent history" section appears incomplete, as it makes no mention about when the brand was acquired. Meanwhile, the relationship between Alligator Mill and Alligator Rainwear is not made clear in the relevant section. As mentioned earlier, I have some reservations about approving either hook except as part of the AFD set, though I'm willing to request a second opinion from another editor who may be more willing to accept it. As a possible alternative, a hook about how one of the company's owners was a victim of the Munich air disaster is a possible option, though due to it being a negative event, not going with it is acceptable. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 18:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Edwardx: As the nomination is almost a month old and article issues remain, the nomination may be failed unless there is a prompt response and the issues are addressed. Courtesy ping to co-nominators Whispyhistory and Philafrenzy. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see that Whispyhistory has been expanding the article further and has addressed several concerns that were raised above. Please let me know when you're done working on it so that the review may continue. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks @Narutolovehinata5:...Not sure what else to do there. Maybe the others can think of a hook relating to Alligator's assistance being sought to fix/secure the PVC garment seams which led to Quant's PVC products being sold commercially. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:10, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Whispyhistory: For one thing, the exact relationship between Alligator Mill and Alligator Rainwear is never elaborated on in the article and isn't immediately obvious in any case. There's also no mention of when and why they were acquired by Baker Street Brands, although if no sources (online or offline) that can elaborate on this, then it's okay. As for the hooks, I'm willing to approve either provided that they run on April Fools, as otherwise the hooks just feel too vague or misleading to be in the quirky slot as is. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:32, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will look at the sourcing but the whole point of the last slot is to be vague, misleading, and humorous. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:45, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

M. P. Alladin

  • ... that through his depiction of rural Indo-Trinidadian life, artist M. P. Alladin helped legitimise this subject as a topic for portrayal by artists in Trinidad and Tobago? Source: "This major influence among Indian artists was in the subject matter he chose for his paintings. He showed that Indian rural life was a suitable area for exploitation. And like Selvon he gave a new dignity to this subject. The Indian artists now found exciting subjects in their own backyards and their own homes." (James Isiah Boodhoo (1999) The East Indians and the Creative Arts in the Caribbean, Caribbean Quarterly, 45:2-3, 64-66, DOI: 10.1080/00086495.1999.11829617)
    • ALT1:... that M. P. Alladin was called the "Guru of painters" and "the most influential of artists" in Trinidad and Tobago? Source: "M.P., as he was affectionately called, is remembered as the 'Guru of painters' of Trinidad and Tobago in modern times". (Balkaransingh, Satnarine (2017). "The Role of the Tassa Drum Ensemble in Trinidad and Tobago's Cultural Identity Formation". In Hassankhan, Maurits S.; Roopnarine, Lomarsh; Mahase, Radica (eds.). Social and cultural dimensions of Indian indentured labour and its diaspora : past and present. London: Routledge. pp. 319–342.) "He has been without dispute the most influential of artists in Trinidad and Tobago"(James Isiah Boodhoo (1999) The East Indians and the Creative Arts in the Caribbean, Caribbean Quarterly, 45:2-3, 64-66, DOI: 10.1080/00086495.1999.11829617)
    • ALT2:... that M. P. Alladin's artwork gave "new dignity" and legitimacy to the portrayal of rural Indo-Trinidadian life by artists in Trinidad and Tobago?
    • ALT3:... that in Trinidad and Tobago, the depictions of rural Indo-Trinidadian life by M. P. Alladin helped legitimise this subject as a topic for portrayal by artists.

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 19:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Symbol question.svg Interesting influential life, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I'd like to polish a bit on the original hook, finding the other a bit not specific enough. I think Indo-Trinidadian is a tricky expression to start with, and rather think it could begin "that in Trinidad and Tobago, ...", without link - for current countries, which goes also for the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Gerda Arendt, and I appreciate your help with the hook (I know I'm out of my depth when I try to write about art and artists). What do you think of the Alts 2 and 3? Guettarda (talk) 06:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think your writing is fine, and we just need to overcome my language limits which may be similar to those of other readers. Having thouht about it, I think we might drop the whole long place name, and create a pipe for the impossible Indo-Trinidadian and Tobagonian which I misunderstood! Only when looking it up did I realise that it actually means "from India" here. Perhaps "people in Trinidad with origin in India"? "Indian" is too ambiguous. I think for the hook, we should drop Tobago, and we might specify just Trinidad after his birth place, and in that place's article. And portrayal is more for portraits, no? My take:
ALT2a: ... that M. P. Alladin depicted rural life of people in Trinidad with origin in India in his paintings, and has been credited with giving "a new dignity" to the topic?
ALT2b: ... that M. P. Alladin depicted rural life of people in Trinidad with origin from India in his art, and has been credited with giving "a new dignity" to the subject?
Or comibinations of the elements. - I always like to meet your name which has all of "my" letters in the same order ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 12

West Bank bantustans

Palestinian-controlled West Bank
Palestinian-controlled West Bank
  • ... that the areas of Palestinian partial autonomy in the West Bank (pictured) currently comprise an "archipelago" of 165 islands? Source: Nathan Thrall (16 May 2017). The Only Language They Understand: Forcing Compromise in Israel and Palestine. Henry Holt and Company. p. 144. ISBN 978-1-62779-710-8. 90 percent of the population of the West Bank was divided into 165 islands of ostensible PA control

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 09:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol delete vote.svg POV failure, duplicates existing articles. 11Fox11 (talk) 15:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is the wrong forum. Your blanking is not consistent with IN:DELETE. You are welcome to open a deletion discussion, then we can get back to this afterwards. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The POV problems in the article are beyond repair, the article duplicates existing articles. 11Fox11 (talk) 19:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you have never submitted or reviewed at DYK before. I suggest you review the policies and procedures here before commenting further.
Please explain your issues with the article at the talk page so we can proceed constructively. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The premise that there are Bantustans is inherently POV premise which couldn't be fixed also like it was pointed is IN:POVFORK of West Bank Areas in the Oslo II Accord --Shrike (talk) 09:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is the wrong forum. You can call them what you want (islands? enclaves? patchwork? fragments?) but they are real. No respectable source denies that. The sources used in the article are of the highest quality. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article is one sided POV fest with chosen Pro-Palestinian POV authors to push a Bantustan concept in to I/P conflict. Its never could be a DYK material --Shrike (talk) 08:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Shrike, sorry but you are wrong. Let’s discuss on the article talk page (your sources appear to have failed verification), and then come back here afterwards. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Did you actually read both sources before making your claim? --Shrike (talk) 10:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Given that the article is still there and discussions have been going forth on the article talk page, a new review is clearly needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The topic of the article is not that clearly defined. To my reading, the main thrust is a mixture between a potential future final state which consists of enclaves, and a coverage of the comparisons of such enclaves (past, present, and future) to the bantustans. Regarding neutrality, while the usage of "bantustan" and related words through quotes seems like a necessary part of covering the topic well, the widespread usage of such words outside of quotes is concerning, and does not reflect common usage. Specifically regarding DYK, the proposed hook is inadequate, as it does not cover either of the entwined topics I mentioned before. Looking at just the hook alone the expected bolded article would be West Bank Areas in the Oslo II Accord. If the intended topic of the article is just those areas, then this article would be a POVFORK. If the intended topic is otherwise, and this can be clarified, the hook would need to relate to that topic. CMD (talk) 17:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Chipmunkdavis: thank you for these comments. The article has undergone significant improvements in the last two weeks, and an RM is still ongoing. This topic does seem to have struck a chord with a lot of editors; it was described in Haaretz a couple of years ago as "the most outstanding geopolitical occurrence of the past quarter century." I have also made some tweaks to the hook above. I suspect there will be further discussion on the talk page, including another RM, so I think it is better to wait a little further until reviewing again. Regards, Onceinawhile (talk) 22:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Nothing has changed its same POV fest with cherry picked sources to present one sided POV.Its not DYK material --Shrike (talk) 07:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this editor has behaved this way previously in DYK nominations about well-sourced topics covering elements of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank. See Template:Did you know nominations/Old City of Hebron.
Raising concerns is good, and to be encouraged. But this editor raises non-specific concerns which cannot be addressed, and makes no effort to address the concerns themselves or engage in any real discussion. At Old City of Hebron they started with a few specific comments, which were all addressed, then pivoted to general comments which they refused to engage in discussion on.
I am not saying this article is perfect – as I have said above, there is work to do and discussions are ongoing. I am simply highlighting that there is a chance that this editor repeats the above claim going forward even when the article is ready and discussions have been resolved.
Onceinawhile (talk) 07:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Its not only me.Other editors opined that the article is problematic exactly like in the example you brought --Shrike (talk) 10:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Raising concerns is good and helpful. Topics related to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank are often politically sensitive, and our open-source encyclopedia is the best place on the internet for the topic precisely because we get input from editors of all persuasions.
If you don’t follow up your concerns with constructive discussion or editing, and endlessly repeat the non-specific claims, it is disruptive. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to leave this article on hold for now, but it cannot be considered for DYK while it remains unstable. I hope that the ongoing talk page discussions will provide more input regarding neutrality concerns. Perhaps the RM and similar discussions can also help hone in on a clear article topic. On DYK specific concerns, the current article posits the main topic as "proposed enclaves", and I would prefer a hook that reflects that topic (even though the current situation was undoubtedly proposed at some point). Hook assessment will also require a more stable article. CMD (talk) 11:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agree w Chipmunkdavis. Also, the hook is confusing to me. What's the other 10 per cent? One island? 1000 islands? Not under PA control? Full PA control? It's just very confusing. 2604:2000:E010:1100:6014:F444:B44D:4B1D (talk) 07:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 15

Geology of Himachal Pradesh

geological map of Himachal Pradesh
geological map of Himachal Pradesh
  • ... that rocks in Himachal Pradesh are heavily thrusted and immensely folded? Source: [10.1130/GES00627.1]
    • ALT1:... that ...?

Created/expanded by Nykwong (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 04:20, 23 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This is a student nomination, and was nominated more than a month after creation, well outside the DYK window. Its edit history is a prime example of an article development that should have used the draft space. There are file licensing concerns, for example File:Major rivers in himachal.png, although they appear very much good faith and a result of unfamiliarity with our system. There's a few unsourced bits and pieces, but overall the article appears decent, so I am willing to extend significant IAR and do a more detailed review if the author wants to work on it, which they should indicate on this page. CMD (talk) 11:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • CMD, the article was moved from the nominator's sandbox to mainspace on 15 November, so it was nominated one day beyond the seven-day DYK deadline. For this kind of delay, only minimal IAR is needed. For these annual Geology nominations, nominator Graeme Bartlett is the one ultimately responsible for these, and is who you should be working with. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:32, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks BlueMoonset and Graeme, my apologies Graeme and Nykwong, I was misinterpreting things yesterday. A bit ill. Hopefully I will get the rest of this right. As I said the overall article is quite good. There's a few unsourced parts in "Development of the thrust wedge". I think the source intended is the one in the File:Accretion 1217.jpg caption, if so it should be duplicated into the prose. A page number would be helpful too. The last sentence of "Wedge extrusion model" may be from the immediately preceding Vannay et al source, but I can't access it to check (wiley website isn't working for some reason). The Climatic control on topographic growth section has some minor bits outside of sources, I assume they could be supportable by the Thiede source, but can't access it. I've made some other relevant tweaks myself.
  • On DYK specific needs, the hook seems a bit uninspiring. It could use some extra details, perhaps the geologic eras involved, the Indian and Eurasian plate collision, or the multiple tectonic units at the surface. Another hook topic may be the interaction between rainfall and isostatic load in the region, although this may be tricky to word accessibly. Best, CMD (talk) 02:36, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geotechnical applications of Lidar

The digital terrain model, in black, ignore vegetation in red.
The digital terrain model, in black, ignore vegetation in red.
  • ... that Lidar can be used to make a digital terrain model? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: [4]

Moved to mainspace by Waikinl (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:41, 23 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg While there are two sections about digital terrain models, the hook isn't actually in the article. There are parts at the end of sections that are unreferenced, as well as parts of the two wikitables. The article also shouldn't be an orphan. Otherwise - I can verify some of the information by reading the source abstracts and I assume good faith on the rest of the sourced information. A QPQ has been completed. The image is free use. SL93 (talk) 23:35, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Little Ice Age volcanism

graph of average temperature on the Earth
graph of average temperature on the Earth
  • ... that Little Ice Age volcanism is likely to have caused global cooling? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: SY Gunilda
  • Comment: Part of Regional Geology course

Moved to mainspace by Marcolam308 (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • I oppose the hook. Based on the reference for this very image, there was essentially no global cooling during the so-called Little Ice Age. LIA was a regional phenomenon. See Hawkins, Ed (January 30, 2020). "2019 years". climate-lab-book.ac.uk. Archived from the original on February 2, 2020. CS1 maint: discouraged parameter (link) RCraig09 (talk) 23:28, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's not entirely true. It seems that there was some global cooling towards the end of the little ice age due to volcanism, as shown be the pages2k consortium. Femke Nijsse (talk) 10:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there were a couple of volcano-related temperature declines during the LIA. But the hook misleadingly ~suggests that volcanism-induced cooling was "special" to the LIA. The pages2k chart shows such declines outside the LIA as well. Such a hook might be generally appropriate to Volcanism or Volcano, but not specific to the LIA. —RCraig09 (talk) 19:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg This is a student nomination from a student who is not editing anymore. Nomination is one day outside the seven day window. There's scattered unsourced sentences, but they're quite general and the article would meet length requirements even if they were simply deleted. Earwig is only picking up short phrases. Clearly the hook is causing quibbles, so a new one could be used. RCraig09 and Femke Nijsse, if either of you have time could you take a quick look to see if the article is accurate as a whole, and if there are interesting points you feel would serve as a hook? CMD (talk) 03:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a shame the article hasn't used modern sources much. The term "little ice age" has fallen somewhat out of fashion, so that may explain the bias towards older sources. Our article now says there have been three cooling periods, and I can only discern the last one in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6675609/ (and another one just before LIA). I'm not sure what quality we expect of DYK articles, but I suspect doesn't meet those. If it does, we could add:

ALT1 ... that Little Ice Age volcanism likely caused global cooling in the early 19th century.


  • Definitely, any hook should be limited to shorter periods of time, to avoid any implication that the earth as a whole experienced a substantial, persistent net cooling over 3-5 centuries. Separately: besides the hook, I agree with User:Femkemilene/Femke Nijsse that the article likely doesn't meet Ingenpedia standards, and correcting the issues might demand a long time of editors conversant with quite technical subject matter. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:49, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that Little Ice Age volcanism likely caused short periods of global cooling in the __th—__th centuries.

Quality-wise, DYK articles are required only to be neutral, appropriately sourced, and without plagiarism. It's not too high a bar, and I feel you both may be operating from higher standards. I noticed Marcolam308 has made a new edit, so perhaps they may further improve the article and/or comment here. CMD (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Earth system interactions across mountain belts

Flat slab subduction
Flat slab subduction

Moved to mainspace by Hrhunt (talk). Nominated by Graeme Bartlett (talk) at 03:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg The hook needs to be formatted. Yoninah (talk) 16:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Hook has been formatted. Full review of nomination needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:46, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Much of the article is unreferenced and that includes the entire Earth systems section with all of its subsections. The vast quantity of unreferenced information also means that the information below the images are unreferenced as well. The article is also an orphan and it has a disambiguation needed notice for respiration. Otherwise, I am able to verify the hook and some of the information with the provided sources. I assume good faith on the rest of the information. A QPQ has been completed. The image is free use. SL93 (talk) 01:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I left another notice at the nominator's talk page. The page creator has not edited for the past month. Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 16

Aparna Rao

  • ... that Aparna Rao, an anthropologist, spoke more than seven languages? Source: "It was this immense talent for learning languages which enabled Aparna to master, not only her mother-tongues Bengali, Hindi and English, but also French, Farsi, Urdu, Romanes and some vernacular languages of northern India" [6].
    • ALT1:... that Aparna Rao, an anthropologist, was a member of the Société Asiatique? Source: "Aparna Rao war in zahlreichen internationalen akademischen Institutionen enga giert, so unter anderem als Mitglied der Societe Asiatique in Paris, al" (poor english translation: "Aparna Rao was involved in numerous international academic institutions, including as a member of the Societe Asiatique in Paris") [7].
    • ALT2:... that Aparna Rao, an anthropologist, studied the impact of the Kashmir conflict on the environment? Source: "They collaborated as well in research and writing about the Bakkarwal of jammu and Kashmir, the Kashmir conflict's devastating effect on lives and environment, and many other subjects." (they referring to Rao and her husband). [8]
  • Reviewed: first DYK nomination, so not required
  • Comment: Can provide access to paywalled sources via email upon request. This is my first nomination so please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.

Created by Мастер Шторм (talk). Nominated by Sam-2727 (talk) at 15:15, 21 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The original GA review is within the timeline for this nomination to pass. However, the GA review itself was followed by a large number of edits made, there is currently a neutrality tag on the article, and the GA review was conducted by a user who's now known to be a sockpuppet. The review is being discussed at Ingenpedia talk:Good article nominations § Cirt/Right cite GA reviews which may result in removal of the article's GA status at this time. I don't think the article's primary author/improver, nor the nominator here, are at fault nor acting at bad faith, but I don't feel comfortable continuing this review and even considering passing the article when the triggering event is in question. There are two possible ways this can move forward: the article remains a GA (either by consensus that it can, or by someone else "accepting responsibility" for the current GA review) and I will return to re-evaluate the DYK criteria in full; or the article's GA status is either revoked or put back on hold, in which case I will fail this DYK nomination with no prejudice towards a renomination if/when the article becomes a GA again. For this time, I will leave this nomination here for now, and I'll be watching for a resolution to the GA question - after which I will return to close out this review. Pinging User:Мастер Шторм and User:Sam-2727. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 03:41, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Berchanhimez, Thanks for the comment, I think this is a good way to move forward with the nomination. Sam-2727 (talk) 15:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also agree with this Berchanhimez. Sam-2727, please note that in the article, I have made this and this change. However, it would be fine with me if you would like to reinstate the replaced source also and keep both of them. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 19:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg This nomination is a month old. What is going on with the review? The GA was done by a sockpuppet and there is a neutrality tag on the article. Has a request for a GA reassessment been submitted? Please advise. Yoninah (talk) 13:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yoninah, I have just queried Aircorn on the GA review page, since they seem to have looked at the original review, and are also involved on the reassessment side of things as well. Frankly, given that this is a sockpuppet review, if there is a problem, a reassessment shouldn't be done, but rather the listing be reversed and the original review reopened and taken over by a competent reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry for my absence, I've been hardly able to peek at Ingenpedia recently and should've been back to follow up on this long ago. I support this nomination being discounted fully - if the GA holds, then the nominators of the GA should be permitted an exception from the 7 day rule on a new nomination. If it doesn't, then the 7 day period is moot and can be re-evaluated if/when it passes a proper GA review. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 00:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • My opinion is to let the GA stand. If anything a review from a sockpuppet of an experienced GA reviewer is better than a new reviewer who doesn't understand the criteria. I see no indication that CIRTs issuers were with the GA process. It seems unfair to punish good faith nominators because another editor sockpuppets. I don't really get involved in DYK so won't comment on how it is handled here. AIRcorn (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK, ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 00:39, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 24

Climate change in Kenya

Created/expanded by Gbadegesin Muhammed (talk) and Sadads (talk). Nominated by EMsmile (talk) at 16:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @EMsmile: This interesting article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts for ALT0 and ALT1 are cited inline, and the article is neutral. Unfortunately the article contains significant amounts of close paraphrasing. I rewrote one sentence that showed up with the Earwig tool, but then found other examples. The paragraph on tea for example includes "Sustainability of the industry is thus crucial to the country’s socio-economic well-being and development", which is lifted straight from the source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:59, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Cwmhiraeth: thank you for pointing that out. I wasn't aware of that - most of the work was done by Gbadegesin Muhammed but also some others during the Wiki4Climate edit-a-thon. I should have checked with the tool myself. We'll work on that issue. Is there a time frame by which we have to have improved it by? EMsmile (talk) 16:26, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cwmhiraeth, I noticed the close paraphrasing myself when discussing the nomination of this article with EMsmile. I've done some copyediting without looking at the sources (apologies for not managing to do it before the review), for grammar and flow, and currently earwig isn't pulling up too much. CMD (talk) 16:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bah I've found some egregious examples that earwig isn't picking up. This will require a thorough check. CMD (talk) 17:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@EMsmile: Thank you both. There is no particular time frame for sorting it out, but ideally, each paragraph should be compared with its source. That's how I noticed the paragraph about tea. New editors don't always understand about copyright. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ur-Quan

Improved to Good Article status by Shooterwalker (talk). Self-nominated at 19:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • checkY Article is long enough (9789 characters), is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 24 November, nominated on 25 November), and article is within policy
  • ☒N IN:DYKHOOK says that "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way." This hooks is completely in-universe about Star Control and Mass Effect game universes, and the casual reader would have no idea what this hook is about. Please can you provide a hook that adheres to the above rule?
  • checkY QPQ exempt as the user has 1 previous DYK nomination
  • Symbol question.svg Overall the article is good, but the hook needs to be changed. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 29

Valentina (singer)

  • Reviewed: Coming soon

Created/expanded by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 20:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Symbol question.svg Interesting song and singer, and I'm looking at both. Good foreign sources accepted AGF. Please mark the language of each source not English. No copyvio obvious. I am not happy with the hooks' wording. How about something like
ALT3: ... that Valentina won the Junior Eurovision Song Contest singing "J'imagine", as the first victory of France in the contest? - Also waiting for qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moral blindness

  • ... that moral blindness can make one behave in ways contrary to one's own moral principles?
  • Reviewed: I still have to review another nomination and will post this here once it's done.

5x expanded by Rianahen (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: could you rephrase the hook so that it does not address the reader (eg - "can make one believe..."). Mindmatrix 20:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Thank you for the input, that does make sense - have edited accordingly! Rianahen (talk) 20:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I have removed incorrect capitalisation from the hook. Can you please edit your article headings to comply with MOS:SECTIONS? Same problem there. Schwede66 16:48, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Thank you for the input! I have changed the section headings to sentence case.Rianahen (talk) 18:31, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Namcot Collection

Improved to Good Article status by Namcokid47 (talk). Nominated by Le Panini (talk) at 03:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The first sentence of the Games section is improperly referenced because the source doesn't mention "the Japanese consumer game division of Namco, for the Family Computer (Famicom) and Nintendo Entertainment System (NES)." The second sentence of that section is also improperly referenced because while the article says that some of the games were developed by Game Freak and Atlus, one of the sources only mentions one game by Game Freak and Atlus isn't in either source. As for the third sentence of that section, the years 1980 and 1981 are not in the source. As for the fourth sentence in that section, the year 1989 isn't mentioned in either source and the first source specifically states that Splatterhouse was only released for the Famicom with no mention of NES. As for the next sentence, the source mentions none of those genres. As for the next sentence, "homebrew" and the year 2007 aren't mentioned anywhere. I'm failing this as the GA review was clearly flawed and I see no reason to look through the rest of the article until a proper one by someone else is completed. SL93 (talk) 19:49, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • SL93, Hm... you have a good reputation with source review, but I know that Namcokid does know what they are doing and works well in the video game community. I addressed these concerns to them. Le Panini [🥪] 20:12, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Everything is required to be cited and I’m more concerned that it seems like you, as the GA reviewer, didn’t pay attention to what is in the sources. SL93 (talk) 20:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Let me do some clarification.
  1. Sentence 1: It's rather taken using other context; it says how Namco split into Namcot to publish games for consoles from 1984 to 1985, coincidentally during the existence of the NES and Famicom. Other things unmentioned (such as "the company split into Namcot"), are common sense.
  2. Another common sense example; Game Freak developed Mendal Palace.
  3. Common sense, if the source doesn't say that "by the way, Pac-man came out in 1980", this is just for reference; it's just to show the viewer when the original game came out. They can click the link and find the date in the first sentence, with citation there.
  4. This can be fixed by replacing "and" with "or", to distinguish. This game is just an example how some games were exclusive.
  5. I don't know what you're talking about. "Perhaps unsurprisingly, both volumes lean into the shmup genre the most, and include the likes of Gaplus, Super Xevious and the excellent Dragon Spirit. Otherwise, there’s a good selection of platformers, one or two RPG titles, arcade essentials like Dig Dug, and Japanese exclusives like the adorably horrifying Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti." This section describes the games include the different genres (shmup is an abbreviation of shoot em' up)
  6. Once again, 2007 doesn't need to be cited, and homebrew (im pretty sure) means a modern game recreated on previous consoles, usually with hardware restrictions. As it says in the second source, ""it also includes a brilliant NES demake of 2007’s Pac-Man Championship Edition that actually turns out to be the best game in the entire compilation".

Le Panini [🥪] 14:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Le Panini You are wrong about multiple things as well as how DYK has always worked. Please stop pointing to an essay and no, this stuff isn't common sense for non-gamers. Years, at least for the main page, always need to be cited. For DYK, readers are not expected to click on other articles for more information. It isn't common sense for Mendal Palace that Game Freak developed it if someone isn't a gamer (it still doesn't mention Atlus). Demake on Ingenpedia redirects to Video game remake and Homebrew (video games) is a completely different article. SL93 (talk) 16:58, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you really don't believe me, you can ask at Ingenpedia talk:Did you know for another opinion. SL93 (talk) 17:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SL93 Nah, you have more experience than me; instead of pulling a Twitter and going back and forth with this, I'll just accept the failure and move on. Looks like I gotta look more into sources in the future! However, this may just be unintentional, but there was a bit of snarky remark in your responses (and I'm rather insecure). Before doing changes with the good article stance, however, I'm gonna wait on Namco's opinions. They general respond to comments every other day. Le Panini [🥪] 17:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Le Panini It was unintentional, but I'm sure that me trying to find a job after workplace bullying didn't help. It could be that years and some other things don't need to be cited for a Good Article, but I'm mostly basing it off how articles that appear on the main page run. SL93 (talk) 17:55, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm willing to continue the DYK review if the issues I mentioned above are fixed by anyone who is interested. Is Namcokid47 not interested? SL93 (talk) 02:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Le Panini SL93 (talk) 02:32, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Social heuristics

  • ... that social heuristics may explain the tendency to cooperate intuitively with others? Source: Rand et al (2014). "Social heuristics shape intuitive cooperation"

5x expanded by Mwla20 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Note: Nominator is a WikiEd student editor — Maile (talk) 02:38, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Nominator is a WikiEd student editor for the Fall 2020 term at UCLA. (course link) The course ends on December 15, 2020.
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Mwla20, articles need to be expanded fivefold, and this one, while it is expanded significantly, still has quite a ways to go. The article was 2168 prose characters before you started your expansion, and would need to attain 10870 prose characters in order to qualify as a 5x expansion. At the moment, it's about 3x, with 6475 prose characters. If you are able to add another 4395 prose characters, about the amount that you've added so far, the article would qualify lengthwise and can be reviewed further. Without that, I'm afraid it doesn't make it. Best of luck, and please keep us informed of your progress and plans. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg BlueMoonset, Thank you for your review - I understand and will look into expanding further, or re-submitting for DYK if the article achieves good article status. I appreciate your feedback! Mwla20 (talk) 19:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The nominator hasn't edited since December 14, and the course has ended. A 5x expansion was also not accomplished in time. As such, the nomination is regretfully marked for closure as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:30, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 30

Perspective Getting

  • ... that Perspective Getting, although a typically underestimated approach, increases a person's ability to accurately understand the mind of another person? Source: Subsequent research concluded that [perspective getting], although a typically underestimated approach, does increase a person's ability to accurately understand another person's psychological experience.
    • ALT1:... that people are more inclined to use strategies that do not necessarily promote accurate interpersonal understanding, which can negatively impact the way people interact with each other? Source: People's general underestimation of [perspective getting] implies people are more inclined to use strategies that do not necessarily promote accurate interpersonal understanding, which can negatively impact the way people interact with each other as well as the outcomes of those interactions.
  • Comment: Nominating PERSPECTIVE GETTING for DYK.

Created by LM14840 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Note: Nominator is a WikiEd student editor
  • Note: Nominator is a WikiEd student editor for the Fall 2020 term at UCLA. (course link) The course ends on December 15, 2020. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AlphaFold

  • Comment: Note: I am one day over in submitting this, because it was previously up for consideration at IN:ITNC (discussion), and only fell off the page there at midnight this morning. So any leeway you could give it would be appreciated.
  • Reviewed: The Adults Are Talking

Converted from a redirect by Ktin (talk), Jheald (talk), and My very best wishes (talk). Nominated by Jheald (talk) at 18:36, 8 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article is new enough and long enough. The rationale for the two nonfree images is perfectly argued. I had some doubt for the first image, but searching in google-images didn't show the same image anywhere else. The article is neutral and well sourced. The "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" don't show any copyvio (it just marked the quoted part). You have done a great job, congratulations. Alexcalamaro (talk) 20:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: in spirit of MOS:PEACOCK, I suggest the following blurb: ... that AlphaFold 2 won the 14th biannual CASP competition achieving 92% accuracy, essentially solving the decades-old protein folding problem. --bender235 (talk) 01:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Bender235: While claims such as "In a serious sense the single protein single domain [prediction] problem is largely solved" have been widely made (that quote is from conference chair John Moult's closing presentation to the conference), were very widely featured as a top line in media coverage, and have also been supported in thoughtful commentary by eg Mohammed AlQuraishi [9], they have also met with opposition; and so we are not currently running them on the article. (Though this could be changed). See article talk page for extended discussions. That is why I submitted the DYK text as above.
Note also that while AF2 has made a very significant advance in the protein structure prediction problem, this is a different question to the question of how protein folding develops in nature, so caution should be taken not to confuse the two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jheald (talk • contribs) 09:43, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Returning to IN:DYKN until review is settled. I personally find the ALT0 wordy and difficult to understand. Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Folks @Jheald, My very best wishes, Alexcalamaro, and Bender235:, this one has been open for sometime now, let's go ahead and drive this one to closure. I think the below text is the best that someone on homepage would be able to follow; anything more and we run the risk that folks find it too wordy or too complex. Let's move ahead, if you are good. Also @Yoninah: I do not want to presuppose your background but can you read the below two hooks as a layperson and let me know if you a) find it interesting b) generally get the gist of this one? If you are not a layperson for this topic, I am happy to go chase down some laypersons for this topic. Cheers.Ktin (talk) 22:42, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 3.0.... that DeepMind's protein-folding AI AlphaFold 2 has solved a 50-year-old grand challenge of biology? (source: MIT Technology Review).
OR
ALT 4.0 .... that DeepMind's AI AlphaFold 2 can predict the shape of proteins to within a width of an atom? (source: MIT Technology Review).
  • @Ktin: I am a layperson, and I really like ALT 3.0. ALT 4.0 is also more understandable than ALT0. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks @Yoninah:. Wonderful. @Alexcalamaro and Bender235: -- if one of you have a moment, please can you review the above two hooks per the standard IN:DYK hook review guidelines? Cheers. Ktin (talk) 22:42, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Yoninah, ALT 4 blurb is very catchy. Probably the best choice. --bender235 (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Ktin: I prefer ALT 3.0, I think fits better with the achievement and is more attractive for "the layperson" ;-) . Alexcalamaro (talk) 23:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wonderful. Thanks both of you @Alexcalamaro and Bender235:. Please can one of you review the hooks per our guidelines and approve both the hooks, we can choose one from the two post that or empower the posting Admin to make a choice. But, first step, lets approve the hooks. Cheers. Thanks again folks. Ktin (talk) 23:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Both hooks ALT  3.0 and ALT 4.0 meet our guidelines Alexcalamaro (talk) 18:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Passing the baton over to you Yoninah to take it from here. I am good with either of the hooks (ALT3 or ALT4). I know you had prefered ALT3 and Bender235 had prefered ALT4. Alexcalamaro -- do you want to cast the tie-breaker vote? ;) Ktin (talk) 18:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I vote for ALT 3.0 option (after all, we are talking about folding proteins). Alexcalamaro (talk) 19:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks much Alexcalamaro. Passing the baton to Yoninah. Over to you now for next steps :) Thanks everyone. I want to specially thank @Jheald and My very best wishes: who have done and continue to do lots of good work on the article. Genuinely thank you folks. Ktin (talk) 19:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol question.svg I think all these versions of hooks, including ALT3 and ALT4 misinform a reader. No, the "50-year-old grand challenge of biology" has not been solved. There will be many future CASP meetings to assess further progress in this direction. Just saying that it "predicts the shape of proteins to within a width of an atom" is also wrong. No, it does not. AlphaFold-2 makes sufficiently precise predictions only for 2/3 of proteins, according to CASP assessors. But even in these good cases it does NOT predict protein structure with such precision for all atoms, as a reader would assume. Actually, such claim is simply ridiculous because there is protein dynamics and there is no such thing as width of an atom. There are only atomic radii, but but this is not a single number; they are very different for different types of atoms. Also, this is not "shape", but a three-dimensional structure. The referencing is to a misleading opinion piece. Author does make a claim that AlphaFold can predict the shape of proteins to within the width of an atom, but he apparently does not have a slightest idea what he is talking about. Let's not multiply the misinformation in Ingenpedia. Please see the hook I suggested above (it can be shortened if needed). My very best wishes (talk) 19:51, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • All, very good points My very best wishes, but, this gets very close to IN:OR unless substantiated with a clear note from IN:RS. For now, the statements are sourced perfectly from IN:RS, and I think they meet the layperson's needs on the homepage. My suggestion is let's move forward with ALT3 as discussed above. Ktin (talk) 20:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, there are indeed IN:News sources about it (some of which claim nonsense like predicting "the shape of proteins to within the width of an atom"). However, this is an extraordinary and exceptional claim about solving a fundamental scientific problem, and not everyone agree (some similar IN:News type sources claim the opposite). I think we do need some IN:MEDRS quality sources here, such as serious independent scientific reviews. There is none. The method (AlfaFold-2) has not been published. The official assessment on CASP has not been published in any peer reviewed journal.
For example, as this article tells, "DeepMind’s press release trumpeted “a solution to a 50-year-old grand challenge in biology” based on its breakthrough performance on a biennial competition dubbed the Critical Assessment of Protein Structure Prediction (CASP). But the company drew criticism from academics because it made its claim without publishing its results in a peer-reviewed paper. ... “Frankly the hype serves no one,” and so on. I just do not think we should multiply this "hype" in IN. My very best wishes (talk) 20:29, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @My very best wishes: in a literal sense the protein folding problem is not "solved," since we can obviously always move the goalposts regarding the necessary precision (≥90% accuracy? ≥99%? ≥99.99%?). The jump in precision at this year's CASP certainly deserves to be called a "breakthrough." I agree that the catchy "width of an atom" is not a precisely determined length (just as the even more popular "width of a human hair" is not); the press release said less than two angstrom, which we could use, too. --bender235 (talk) 21:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, one can say a "breakthrough" (I agree), but one can not say that "the problem was solved" for a number of reasons, such as (a) the protein set on CASP is absolutely not a representative set of proteins (it included only one membrane protein and the group was ranked #43 for this target, it did not include any "intertwined" protein structures or any linear peptides or any proteins with unique sequence in genomes, and so on.), (b) the method has not been even published and is not publicly available for independent evaluation, (c) AF2 has failed for a single multi-domain protein in CASP14 data set, while such proteins represent a majority in Eukaryotes, (c) the method was not tested for protein complexes. This is not at all about the percentage. We simply do not know that percentage. We do not even know the percentage on CASP until the assessment has been officially published. My very best wishes (talk) 18:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would oppose to most of these hooks. OK, let's keep it simple. We do have page AlphaFold. I think this is fair page. However, any hook above (except my suggestion) simply contradicts this page. Does it follow from our AlphaFold page that it "has solved a 50-year-old grand challenge of biology"? No, it does not. Does it follow that AF2 "can predict the shape of proteins to within a width of an atom?" No, it does not. Not at all. Take the lead of this page and summarize it in the hook please. That is what I was trying to do. My very best wishes (talk) 15:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Now, let's consider first hook at the top that the results of DeepMind's AlphaFold 2 program in the CASP 14 protein structure prediction competition have been called "astounding" and transformational?. Well, this is actually much better than last versions. Yes, this is advertisement (just as others), but at least this is not an explicit misinformation. Some people did say that, and most important, yes, the results were very good. My very best wishes (talk) 15:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the spirit of serving our homepage readers, I will still recommend that we go with either of ALT3 or ALT4. Sufficient backing form IN:RS to move ahead. Ktin (talk) 00:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe we could change the "problematic" word solve by crack (also used in the MIT review), so we keep the catchy hook for the "layperson", without multiplying the "hype". What do you think of this one? :
ALT 3.1 ... that DeepMind's protein-folding AI AlphaFold 2 has cracked a 50-year-old grand challenge of biology? (source: MIT Technology Review).

Alexcalamaro (talk) 04:06, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexcalamaro: I am good with this hook (i.e. ALT 3.1). Ktin (talk) 06:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK, we need an uninvolved reviewer to review ALT3.1. Striking unused hooks Yoninah (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I am an uninvolved reviewer because I was not on CASPs for a long time and I do not have connections to CASP organizers or any participants. I only helped with editing page about AF2 in IN. Here is my independent assessment. Yes, there was a great progress with protein structure prediction on CASP14. True. However, "protein folding problem" was NOT solved by AF2 (yet). This is hype. Here is why:
  1. There was only one transmembrane protein in CASP14 dataset, and AF2 team was ranked #43 for this target; the prediction for this target by AF2 or other groups is far cry from solving the structure. Transmembrane proteins constitute at least 25-30% of proteins in human genome [10] (more by other estimates)
  2. The performance by AF2 was not great for multidomain proteins, as could be expected because AF2 was not tested for predicting protein complexes. The subunits in complexes are similar to domains. Up to 80% of all eukaryotic proteins are multidomain proteins [11].
Was it solved by AF2 at least for single domains of water-soluble proteins? There is no proof of that because
  1. Many proteins are represented by just a single or by a few related sequences in sequence databases, when one can not make large sequence alignment. However, AF2 method is actually based on using large high quality sequence alignments. We do not know if AF2 was tested for such cases and how did it perform.
  2. As follows from presentations on CAS14 (for example, [12]) AF2 did NOT achieve the accuracy of experimental methods. Moreover, looking at the distance cutoff-sequence coverage graphs here for specific CASP14 targets (T1024, T1027, T1028, T1029, T1030, T1032, T1040, T1047, T1052, T1061, T1070, T1091, T1092, T1099 T1100), one can see they are not even very close. For example, T1024 has only 50% of residues covered by best models for distance cutoff of 2A. Yes, they correctly predicted protein "fold", even family where it belongs (which is great!), but this is far cry from "solving protein folding" problem.
  3. AF2 is not publicly available for an independent evaluation
  4. AF2 and assessment of AF2 were not published not only in IN:MEDRS sources, but in any peer reviewed sources.
  5. GDT measure used by CASP assessors is a poor (insensitive) measure of performance for high-precision modeling. Having GDT of 90 or 60 (e.g. [13]) does not mean that 90% or 60% of the structure was predicted with the same accuracy as provided by X-ray crystallography, for example.
My conclusion Hook ALT 3.1 is misinformation. Do not do it. My very best wishes (talk) 14:31, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Following the comments above by My very best wishes and aiming to reach a wide consensus, I propose the following alternative hook :
ALT 3.2 ... that DeepMind's protein-folding AI AlphaFold 2 has made great progress towards a decades-old grand challenge of biology? (source: MIT Technology Review Nature)).

Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:05, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think that's OK, with one correction: if you need a ref, it should be this [14]. That MIT writer makes too many incorrect claims, such as AF2 used 170,000 PDB structures for training (they used less), etc. My very best wishes (talk) 21:19, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have changed the source of ALT3.1 to Nature, and added the hook text to the "Responses" section of the article (to meet Hooks criteria). We need more reviewers to validate the proposal. Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:31, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 1

Pencil tower

Pencil towers in New York City
Pencil towers in New York City
  • ... that newer ultra luxury, super slender, and supertall skyscrapers in New York City (pictured) are known as pencil towers? Source: "Super-tall, super-skinny, super-expensive: the 'pencil towers' of New York's super-rich" link
  • ALT1:... that super slender, and supertall skyscrapers in New York City (pictured) are known as pencil towers? Source: "Super-tall, super-skinny, super-expensive: the 'pencil towers' of New York's super-rich" link
  • ALT2:... that newer slender skyscrapers in New York City (pictured) are known as pencil towers? Source: "Super-tall, super-skinny, super-expensive: the 'pencil towers' of New York's super-rich" link
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arizona Falls

Created by Z22 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The hook is a bit too much of a mouthful; I'd drop "ultra luxury" for not being NPOV as well.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Needs a bit more work, but a good effort. SounderBruce 06:50, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for the review. I went back and double check each one of those ratios listed on the article and found two ratios that were not explicitly stated on the sources, so I removed those two. The remaining ratios are explicitly stated each by the first inline citation after it. I added ALT1 to shorten it per your suggestion. I also used the Earwig tool for potential copyvio and it only listed things like building names, "skyscrapers", "slenderness ratio", etc. Not sure if a specific part that could present a concern, we can address that. Z22 (talk) 07:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @SounderBruce: I'm not sure what else we should do to improve the article to meet the standard for the DYK. Your inputs would be appreciated. Z22 (talk) 13:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry about the wait, I am extremely busy right now and have limited time to edit. All three of the hooks still aren't quite right, as they repeat "super" and don't flow well. I think you should take another shot at them. SounderBruce 05:36, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The ALT2 hook doesn’t have anything “super” in it at all and it seems okay to me. Maybe another editor can help with a hook suggestion. Thank you. Z22 (talk) 01:34, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Siegfried Pank

Siegfried Pank in 2014
Siegfried Pank in 2014

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article long enough and new enough (just within the 7 day limit), and generally within policy with regards to referencing and neutrality. No copyvio detected. Suggest a shorter hook as I think it will be difficult to parse all the info of the proposed hook just by a glance on the main page. HaEr48 (talk) 01:10, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    thank you, but what? Few people are both members of that notable orchestra and professor of a period instrument, and found The international organisation on a specific composer, and serve at its director. More people will know the orchestra than the composer, I guess, but those who do know the composer should also be served. We could drop "cello" from the teaching, but would again loose versatility. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WhopperCoin

  • Reviewed: Don't have 5 DYKs yet.

Created/expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Currently full of cryptocurrency sites (crypto sites are regarded as from "generally unreliable" down to "pay-for-play spam") and self-sourcing; creator is edit-warring them back in. Should not be DYK'ed while it's not in a fit state - David Gerard (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @David Gerard: Props for your assistance in copyediting the article after I linked it to you on your talk page; I'm not very familiar with the state of the art on RS policy for cryptocurrency (the topic changes too quickly for me to stay up-to-date). I think everything is fine now, though.
I did add back some of the stuff you removed -- some of it after finding alternate RS that supported it, and some of the other stuff was already covered by the initial RS for the article, so it could simply be cited to that instead (good eye on the Forbes contributor article / the Newsweek thing, which had slipped my mind entirely). I kept the link to the press release by Waves and the asset page on their site, because it seems to me to fall under IN:ABOUTSELF -- but I'd be fine with taking them back out, since everything sourced to those pages is also covered by other inline references from RS as well (BBC, CNN, CNBC). I've either removed or commented out anything that I've been unable to find a non-contested source for so far. I appreciate your candor -- is there anything in the article right now that lacks RS? (I couldn't find anything in the RSN archives showing consensus for CoinTelegraph, but it wasn't a very important source, so I've simply taken it out) jp×g 18:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Crypto sites have a terrible problem with COI down to blatant pay-for-play. CoinDesk is the only one to get as far as IN:RSP, and there are links there to the past discussions, but others are considered similarly. Article still has bitcoin.com (a promotional site for Bitcoin Cash) in as I write this - David Gerard (talk) 12:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My main concern is that removing material that reflects poorly on the subject makes the article less neutral. While it's certainly possible to have an article based solely on the Fortune/CNBC/BBC/etc pieces (indeed, that's what we have now -- the IN:ABOUTSELF references to the press release were corroborated by other sources), there are certain key facts -- it resulted in legal action against the company, it stopped being traded on exchanges, it got delisted from the website of its backing platform -- which I think it's important to mention in the name of accuracy. For example, without cryptocurrency news sites, the only references for it being delisted from Waves' asset pages are the asset pages themselves. I don't mean to imply that you are coming at this with a pro-WhopperCoin bias (I mean, I don't think anybody is, since by all reasonable measures it stopped existing years ago) -- I just don't like the idea of glossing over the negative aspects. jp×g 05:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with covering cryptocurrencies is that the sourcing isn't fit for Ingenpedia in way too many cases - because many of these things are barely notable - David Gerard (talk) 16:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This has all been fixed; are there any other issues? jp×g 05:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, much better thanks! - David Gerard (talk) 08:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg this nomination still needs a full review. Flibirigit (talk) 15:38, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 3

Ute Trekel-Burckhardt

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

John Montgomery Cooper

Created by Anupam (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, adequately referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. It meets start-class criteria for DYK, but I don't get any feeling about his anthropology work, as the emphasis is on his academic career at Catholic University. Your Encyclopedia Britannica source says much more about his views about Indians, as well as his writing and journal editing, which you don't mention in the article. I have added a "when?" tag to one sentence.
  • The hook is not very hooky. If you take off the string of adjectives in the front, all you're left with is "Did you know that X=Y?" I think if you add more detail from the source you will have more detail with which to craft a better hook. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User:Yoninah, I have expanded the article per your suggestions, addressed the tag, and created an alternative hook. I trust that this is helpful and will result in the approval of this DYK. Kind regards, AnupamTalk 00:39, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Anupam: I moved around the presentation so it follows more logically instead of having his teaching and anthropological fieldwork all jumbled up. I also added more from the source. Here is an alt suggestion:
  • ALT2: ... that John Montgomery Cooper advanced the theory that both South American and North American Indians were "marginal peoples" who were cultural relics from prehistoric times? Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User:Yoninah, thank you for your reply. I appreciate you rearranging things. I am fine with the proposed hook if you are. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 22:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. Since I wrote the hook, we need another reviewer to finish up this review. Yoninah (talk) 22:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Torwali people

Created by Anupam (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is long enough and new enough. I assume good faith on the offline sources. The information for the hook is directly cited. However, the lead needs to be expanded per IN:LEAD. I'm also fixing the hook as ALT0a: ... that the Torwali people inhabited the valley of the Swat River even before the Buddhist era of the northwest Indian subcontinent? SL93 (talk) 19:54, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The hook goes back to the following quote: "Torwals are said to be one of the groups indigenous to the region, inhabiting the area before the Buddhist era" [17]. Some caution needs to be exercised about claims of such deep antiquity. Even if it weren't for the fact that it places the Torwalis into an era probably two millennia before any historical records about the people, and likely well before any historical records at all, the claim would still need to be reliably sourced by the standards for this topic: IN:HISTRS. Hearsay reported in the notes of a travel journalist doesn't come close to that.
      The article's other sources are not offline, they're both very much online. I've managed to trace the first to JSTOR 29756645, though it has very little to say about the Torwalis and hasn't been much used in the article. The other, main, source is Zubair Torwali's 2015 article in an online-only journal, and it's available at academicjournals.org/journal/JLC/article-full-text/CBBA2D553114. Now, I haven't formatted that as a URL, because I wouldn't have been able to: academicjournals.org is on the external links blacklist, which you will get notified about any time you try to save an edit introducing a link to it (I don't know how that has escaped the notice of the article creator). The reason is that it's a suspected predatory journal. This needs to be sorted out – either the blacklisting wasn't correct in the first place (in which case the website will need to be unlisted), or alternative sources for the article will need to be found. Regardless, we can't promote to DYK content that's almost entirely based on a blacklisted source. – Uanfala (talk) 22:09, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I’m glad that you mentioned that information about the sources, but I mentioned that they were offline sources because there was no such indication in the article and I didn’t expect such a long-time editor to not include actual links when they are available. SL93 (talk) 22:24, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
User:SL93, thank you for your comments. I was using offline versions of the references, not the ones that were linked above. I have found many other sources that discuss the Torwali people. If I remove the one in question, could this article still be promoted or has that ship sailed? I look forward to hearing from you soon. Thanks, AnupamTalk 01:08, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Anupam For this to be approved, the hook source would need to be changed to a better one based on the concern raised by Uanfala as well as replacing the predatory journal sourcing with something reliable. SL93 (talk) 01:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see that the journal was replaced so that leaves one issue. I'm very hesistant to listen to the other issues raised by Uanfala because they admitted that they are not an expert on the topic. In response to any other issue besides the current reference, I would need an actual expert's opinion that agrees with the editor. SL93 (talk) 01:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User:SL93, thank you for your reply, as well as for having a look at the article again. If you are aware of another reviewer who could have a look at the article, or if you have suggestions on how I can improve it, I would be happy to work with you on this. With regards, AnupamTalk 02:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The predatory journal has very much not been replaced (there are still over ten cites to it in the present version of the article). Also, I'm a bit puzzled by the reference to expertise. If such is required from an editor who points out basic sourcing problems with a text, then shouldn't the same also be asked of the editor who contributed that text? – Uanfala (talk) 05:32, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, by now the article has been rewritten so it doesn't use the blacklisted journal any more, and the original hook has been abandoned. Therefore, the two concerns above have been addressed. There's still a dispute over the History section though, and that's currently being hashed out on the talk page. – Uanfala (talk) 02:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Girl: Stories, Masochistic Ono Band

  • ... that Masochistic Ono Band was created by voice actors Hiroshi Kamiya and Daisuke Ono through the radio program Dear Girl: Stories, with the other band members consisting of the program's writing staff? Source: Anime News Network (link): "Scriptwriter Masaru Suwa, also known as MOB member Do-S, posted an apparent response to the incident on Twitter."; Natalie (link): "MASOCHISTIC ONO BANDは、2013年に文化放送のレギュラーラジオ番組「神谷浩史・小野大輔のDear Girl～Stories～」から生まれたバンド。[Masochistic Ono Band is a band created in 2013 on Nippon Cultural Broadcasting's radio program Hiroshi Kamiya and Daisuke Ono's Dear Girl: Stories."
    • ALT1:... that the radio program Dear Girl: Stories had a film adaptation produced partly to record Masochistic Ono Band's debut music video? Source: Animate Times (link): "その後、初のオリジナル楽曲「Ace of Asia」のPV 撮影の為、香港を訪れた彼らの姿を記録した実写映画「Dear Girl～Stories～THE MOVIE2 ACE OF ASIA」が制作され、各地で好評を博した。[Afterwards, in order to film the music video of their first original song, "Ace of Asia", the live-action film Dear Girl: Stories The Movie 2: Ace of Asia, which documented the group's visit to Hong Kong, was produced and gained favorable reception.]"

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 09:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 4

Jutta Lampe

Jutta Lampe as Mrs. Baines in Major Barbara
Jutta Lampe as Mrs. Baines in Major Barbara
  • ... that Jutta Lampe, who was a leading actress at Peter Stein's Schaubühne in Berlin from 1970 for almost three decades, appeared in Zürich in 2009 in Shaw's Major Barbara (pictured)? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: I imagine the pic a bit cropped, to an upright format

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 23:23, 5 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The pic was now cropped! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Interesting, well referenced article, no copyvio obvious. Article was expanded recently enough. Image is PD. GreatLakesShips (talk) 14:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep for a new hook. You have hooky material in the article; you don't have to write a hook just to name-drop. Also, if you can get someone to lighten the image, it may work at thumbnail size. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 5

Benjamin Philip Watson

  • ... that the New York gynaecologist Benjamin Philip Watson was examined in surgery by Joseph Bell, the model for Sherlock Holmes? Source: "One of his examiners was Joseph Bell, the Edinburgh surgeon whom Arthur Conan Doyle (who had been Bell's assistant), used as the model for Sherlock Holmes." Berkow
    • ALT1:... that the New York gynaecologist Benjamin Philip Watson was head of academic departments in three different countries. ? Source: "...obstetrician and gynaecologist who was the head of academic departments in three different countries." Gane
    • ALT2:... that the New York gynaecologist Benjamin Philip Watson was quizzed in a surgical examination by Joseph Bell, the model for Sherlock Holmes? Source: "One of his examiners was Joseph Bell, the Edinburgh surgeon whom Arthur Conan Doyle (who had been Bell's assistant), used as the model for Sherlock Holmes." Berkow

Moved to mainspace by Iainmacintyre (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: "...examined in surgery..." could be mistakenly understood as Bell having operated on Watson, or observed surgery on Watson. David notMD (talk) 16:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks @David notMD:, that's true but the hook is correct as it stands and as written sounds more enigmatic and hooky. However I've added ALT2 which addresses your comment. Papamac (talk) 15:15, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment ALT2 or the original preferred to ALT1. Text of article makes clear what "examined in surgery" means. I am doing another DYK review as my QPQ, but if I finish that one and yours still unclaimed by a reviewer I will return. David notMD (talk) 17:41, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sputnik 99

  • Reviewed: Positioning theory
  • Comment: Permission is granted to make minor alterations to Hook(s) as you see fit.~GQ

Created/expanded by GenQuest (talk). Self-nominated at 15:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg What makes weebau.com a reliable source? Gog the Mild (talk) 16:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Gog the Mild, thanks for your review and taking an interest in the article. The Weebau.com site is a compendium of space vehicle references from the multitude of governments and organizations operating space launch vehicles up through 2011 (I think). The (secondary source) site has a listing of the primary references it uses to present its information. The reference links can be found HERE. I just used WeeBau because it's one of several such collections online. I could also use one of the other germane references in the article if necessary, as I like duplication of sources. (I will go ahead and do that anyway). I'll see if I can find on-line access to any of the primary sources as well. GenQuest "scribble" 04:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi GenQuest, what I would be looking for on this sort of site would be some sort of solid editorial oversight, eg on my last DYK review the source was a similar website, but I was reassured that the page in question wasn't just one person's opinion by the qualified looking editorial group - here. If weebau gives references, consider using them instead of weebau where appropriate.
At the moment the sentence in question in the article has 3 sources, but only weebau mentions the facts in the hook. If you could support them with another reliable source, that would be helpful. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gog, the primary and printed secondary sources, I fear, are all off-line, and Russia isn't advertising this one anywhere I can find. I'm still looking, and I added a german site, which verifies the same info, but not sure it's going to be any help? There is This Fact Sheet site, too. GenQuest "scribble" 19:06, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
GenQuest, sadly not. Even if I were to approve it, it would be bounced by the main page folk. If you can't find a more reliable verification, maybe we should consider changing the hook? I have switched to ALT1, which is reliably sourced, but if you could properly support ALT0, that is hookier. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I can't get a bigger library right now that might have something on ALT0, so changing the hook is OK by me. The bit about hand-releasing the thing into orbit was surprising to me, and I thought that was a good hook (or some close variation of it). GenQuest "scribble" 22:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Tagging review as unresolved. Yoninah (talk) 17:38, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, I had, I thought, struck ALT0 and approved ALT1 - which does not appear to have any issues. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:31, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gog the Mild, Yoninah, I guess green-light the ALT1, then. No luck on ALT0 without access to copies of the printed papers and mags mentioned in those on-line refs. GenQuest "scribble" 15:30, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 7

Eluru outbreak

  • Comment: First DYK. Thanks in advance for reviewing!

Created by MSG17 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:33, 12 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough, long enough and within policy. The hooks satisfy format. However, neither hook sounds like it will be interesting enough to a broad audience. Indeed, I can't - yet - see any single line in this whole article that will be interesting enough on its own i. e. as a hook, despite the general good quality. At best, I'd prefer the original hook can be modified to just "... that water chlorination measures taken to combat the COVID-19 pandemic in Andhra Pradesh may have caused a new illness?" However, the substance of the hook is dynamic - chlorination 'might' be the reason, and that information is susceptible to change. For now it's a Symbol possible vote.svg. Regards, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 02:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfornuately, I don't see any other statements that would work for a hook right now. However, I can modify the first hook to less subject to change:
  • This way, whether or not this is confirmed as the cause or even if the cause is still not confirmed, this hook is applicable. MSG17 (talk) 03:24, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg @MSG17 and Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI: Hi MSG17, welcome to DYK. Given that this is an article about an epidemic, it falls under the IN:MEDRS guideline, meaning that all statements about health or medical topics need to be cited to medical journal review articles or government health agencies. Popular media articles, even from otherwise reliable sources, are not acceptable for these topics. Unfortunately, none of the current sources are considered reliable medical sources.
In addition, the hooks about water chlorination are questionable, as water chlorination isn't clearly the same as "chlorine used for sanitation" mentioned in the source, nor does it seem to be the primary suspected cause. It's a good effort, but this article will need to be substantially rewritten in order to be within policy. I'm not sure if you have a scientific background, but if you're unsure how to find medical sources we can ping the IN:MED project to try to get someone to help out. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 08:10, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see, I didn't know about this. Thanks. I will look for better sources and start restructuring the article. MSG17 (talk) 00:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Ok, so I did some looking on the NIH, JSTOR, Google Scholar and AIIMS (All India Institute of Medical Sciences) websites and didn't see any papers on the recent outbreak (which has apparently been confirmed to be due to contaminated water and food according to the popular media). Can you help me find or get in touch with IN:MED so we can see if there are any medical-grade sources? MSG17 (talk) 02:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I made a post here: Ingenpedia talk:IngenProject Medicine#Help needed with Eluru outbreak. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 22:07, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is a difficult issue. The article is about a very recent outbreak of an unidentified disease, so is much less likely to have published scholarly papers available as sources. PubMed has nothing, and there is nothing available on https://www.aiims.edu/ which I would have expected to have some statement if any were made. I think that you're going to have to go ahead with the news sources, but take extreme care not to make any biomedical claims. Just in my own opinion, it should be acceptable to report the number of people affected and other statistics, and to explicitly quote expert opinions, as long as they are clearly attributed and avoid too much speculation. I strongly recommend against making any speculative medical claims in the hook. I'd suggest something neutral like:
  • ALT3: ... over 600 people were taken ill from a mystery disease during the Eluru outbreak in Andhra Pradesh?
As and when good medical sources become available, the article should be updated from them. --RexxS (talk) 15:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that is a better hook now that the outbreak seems to have subsided and reports have came out stating a different cause (according only to popular media however). MSG17 (talk) 23:25, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@MSG17: I think User:RexxS generally has a good approach, though I'm not sure if one can write an article about a disease outbreak without any biomedical claims at all. If a public health agency or official is quoted in a popular news articles, that's still not ideal. You'd have to use phrases like "according to X" or "it was reported that" quite a lot. Anything from non-public health officials should be omitted, or explicitly discussed as speculation if it seems to be notable for some other reason. I'll have another look at it once you've reworked it. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Honestly, I don't think this will be studied for a while, if at all. I searched PMC and WHO and didn't find any results. Quite frankly, I am also tired of working on this page. I will withdraw this nomination. I have found another topic with a lot more research, however, that I am planning to write about and possibly submit here if there is enough info.MSG17 (talk) 01:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 9

Fasana-e-Azad

  • ... that Urdu novel Fasana-e-Azad consist of about 3000 pages? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that Fasana-e-Azad is regarded as one of the first modern Urdu novels? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by Gazal world (talk). Self-nominated at 07:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is just a comment -- I don't intend to review this DYK nom -- but I think an even more interesting 'hook' could probably be written about the novel's minor character, Khoji, who was based on Sancho Panza from Don Quixote, and who was so popular that an edition of this 3000 page novel was published collecting just excerpts about Khoji. That detail would need some rewriting to be concise and fit in the DYK format, but I think going into a bit of detail like that helps this novel stand out from other old, long novels. (Good luck with the DYK nom, Gazal world!) ~ oulfis 🌸(talk) 23:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing QPQ added. -Nizil (talk) 07:17, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dongfeng EQ2050

  • ... that the Dongfeng EQ2050 was only produced because of the Humvee's prominence when it was shown on TV in the Gulf War?

Created by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 03:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment Major copyright issues given by Earwig's Copyvio Detector. Please completely reword the parts that are flagged by the detector as they are clear violations of IN copyright policy and will prevent the article from passing this process. Footlessmouse (talk) 23:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Footlessmouse: Reworded parts where it can clash with copyright violations based on Earwig. Ominae (talk) 02:41, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks! This was not a full review, though. Just a copyvio check. I have marked it for a new review so there would be no confusion. Great work! Footlessmouse (talk) 08:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*@Footlessmouse: Not a problem. Ominae (talk) 12:03, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 10

Odrysian kingdom

The Odrysian kingdom in the late 5th century BC
The Odrysian kingdom in the late 5th century BC

5x expanded by LeGabrie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:00, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol delete vote.svg While this article has been expanded, it is not a five-fold expansion. The article had 9,079 characters of prose before expansion began and has 20,492 now. Also, the expansion began on December 9, and this was just nominated now on December 25, so it is a 2x expansion in the course of over two weeks. Keep at it and perhaps this article can become IN:GA. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Ecuadorian general election

  • ... that Lenín Moreno is not running for reëlection as president in the 2021 Ecuadorian general election, but 16 other people are? Source: Economist article, not enough space here to include the 16 sources for each candidate
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 13:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Israel–Morocco normalization agreement

Created by Thepharoah17 (talk) and Feminist (talk). Nominated by Feminist (talk) at 18:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article does not support the hook statement that the recognition is "contrary to" the UN position. And ALT2 is not appropriately even-handed - the article reflects both support and the opposite by various parties. Neither of those are appropriate. 2604:2000:E010:1100:8813:945C:33AD:2B50 (talk) 17:11, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article reports that the UN says its position is "unchanged", with a message "to avoid any action that could further aggravate a tense situation", implying disapproval of the new US position. ALT2 is notable because Inhofe is generally known as close to Trump and his administration. A DYK hook does not have to be reflective of all of the article's viewpoints as a whole, as long as the hook, viewed in isolation, meets neutrality requirements. feminist (talk) free Hong Kong 04:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • As to the first hook - I looked at it again, and at the effort in the above statement to demonstrate that the hook reflects accurately what the article says, and still believe it does not.
As to ALT1 (I apologize-that is what I was referring to, not ALT2), it is not at all a neutral reflection of what the article states - though it would be fine if it were to say it were condemned by some parties and lauded by some parties. We should not be using DYK to give a mistaken impression of what the article says-that's contrary to our goals, and simply inappropriate.
I don't have a problem with the language of ALT2, which I see as the only acceptable hook-sorry for the confusion.
Another ALT that would be acceptable in my view is simply " ... that as part of the Israel–Morocco normalization agreement, the US agreed to recognize Morocco's claim to Western Sahara."
2604:2000:E010:1100:7462:CB4D:B27A:20DE (talk) 09:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the normalization agreement has received both statements of support and opposition, but I don't think any country has specifically said anything positive about the US's recognition of Morocco's claim over Western Sahara? For what it's worth, I consider Al Jazeera to be a biased source on any issue relating to Israel, though this particular article is reliable for what it is used to support. feminist (talk) free Hong Kong 12:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol possible vote.svg I find the recognition of the Western Sahara claim to be hooky enough, perhaps adding a subsequent clause to the hooks dilutes the impact of this change. The hooks could use a link to Political status of Western Sahara. That said, the article is not in great shape. It's a poorly organised stub, and needs to be reworked and could use a bit more expansion. The source used for the Western Sahara recognition doesn't mention the topic. CMD (talk) 05:43, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed ALT3 above. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Chipmunkdavis: I have expanded the article a bit to provide some context and more details. Other editors are of course welcome to aid in its expansion. Regarding ALT3, I have slight concerns that non-Americans may not be sufficiently aware of what "bipartisan" means in the context of American politics. feminist (talk) 09:17, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Feminist, we could link Bipartisanship? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The new structure is an improvement, but the article is still mixing up the Reuters sources, and thus mixing up definite results of the agreement such as the recognition and potentially unrelated effects such as the drone sails. I'm also surprised it doesn't mention the commitment for a US embassy in the Western Sahara, which is a concrete statement of recognition. For the hook, I continue to suggest leaving reactions and other opinions to the article rather than the hook. CMD (talk) 13:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree w CMD's observation that "I find the recognition of the Western Sahara claim to be hooky enough, perhaps adding a subsequent clause to the hooks dilutes the impact of this change."2604:2000:E010:1100:6014:F444:B44D:4B1D (talk) 07:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Average readers will not understand the huge significance of this, with the Trump administration having unilaterally broken ranks with a half-century-old global consensus. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The only reason this is making the news at all is because of Trump's giveaway recognition, approved of by no-one so far. The UN will discuss it on Monday, why not wait for input from that.https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/whatsinblue/2020/12/western-sahara-consultations-7.phpSelfstudier (talk) 10:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So after the meeting (closed door) only new thing is South African ambassador comments to the press after:- "decisions contrary to multilateral collective decisions must be discouraged and unequivocally disregarded. We believe that any recognition of Western Sahara as part of Morocco is tantamount to recognizing illegality as such recognition is incompatible with international law," he said.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-usa-morocco-un/u-n-security-council-talks-western-sahara-after-trump-policy-switch-idUSKBN28W01B Selfstudier (talk) 10:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-morocco-to-israel-normalization-pact-not-part-of-trump-brokered-abraham-accords-1.9392662 and now there is this.!.Selfstudier (talk) 15:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed ALT4 above. I think it most neutral --Shrike (talk) 08:45, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
IMHO ALT4 is best, in part because it is most neutral, but also because it is most hooky. 2603:7000:2143:8500:949A:D11A:56E8:1AB8 (talk) 08:42, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Judiciary of the Philippines

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk) and Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Chipmunkdavis (talk) at 16:22, 10 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. Some parts of the article may need further clarification for non-Filipino readers (for example, "has been rejected by the President" could instead be "can be rejected by the President"), and a link to Impeachment of Renato Corona could be included in the mention of Corona in the body. ALT1 is cited inline and verified; however, the actual sentence that discusses ALT0 (i.e. about sharia courts) needs a footnote, as right now one isn't present. In addition, Earwigs is detecting some overlap with this link, and while most appears to be due to terms, there is at least one paragraph that appears to be a very close paraphrase. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:27, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks. Annoyed at that earwig-detected paragraph, it's a list and doesn't even use the cacj link as source. It does appear close though, so I'll have a think about it. CMD (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Narutolovehinata5, I tracked down the cause. Both were taking directly from the Constitution. This seems reasonable for the article, so I kept the quotes and added quotation marks, along with adding a direct citation to the primary source (the Constitution) in addition to the existing secondary source. Outside of these quotes, I have added to and restructured the relevant section, as well as adding a bit more Sharia information. I also added an ALT2 for consideration based on the expanded information. For clarity I have no hook preference, the presented order is arbitrary. CMD (talk) 12:24, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks, I'm a bit tired right now and I've been busy these past few days, but I'll try to finish the review tomorrow. For what it's worth, I'm not really sure if any of the hooks are that interesting, as apart from the Sharia hook (which may surprise readers given that the Philippines is a predominantly Christian country), the hooks don't really appear to be about facts that are unique to or unusual about the Philippine judiciary. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:34, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • No hurry on my end. For me the hooks were interesting and felt unusual, but happy to work on some other idea(s). Could work a mention of martial law into ALT2 for example, or put some history into the article. CMD (talk) 18:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay! Just waiting on the new hook suggestions. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:01, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 11

Willow (song)

Created by Saiff Naqiuddin (talk), BawinV (talk), Ashleyyoursmile (talk), Doggy54321 (talk), and BillieLiz (talk). Nominated by Shuipzv3 (talk) at 12:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]


Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
  • Other problems: Red XN - This is definitely not the most interesting fact about the music video. I've suggested a couple below, all from the same Rolling Stone source.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Great to see the speed of the creation/expansion and the number of editors collaborating on this! Pick a hook from below or counter-suggest and this'll be good to go. — Bilorv (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1: ... that the music video for Taylor Swift's single "Willow" avoids showing some dancers' faces because they were wearing masks as a COVID-19 precaution?
  • ALT2: ... that the music video for Taylor Swift's single "Willow" only used 10 dancers due to COVID-19 restrictions, but more were added with visual effects? (fact not currently mentioned in article)
  • ALT3: ... that the music video for Taylor Swift's single "Willow" featured orbs rather than bonfires due to the 2020 California wildfires?

@Shuipzv3: Would you pick one of the alternative hooks? Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Industry Bar

  • ... that Industry replaced a parking garage? Source: "... the 'raw, sexy space' will be turned into something so innovative you'll forget it was a parking garage." ([19])
    • ALT1:... that Industry faces Therapy? Source: "The bar is on the first floor of a Bauhaus-style office building on West 52nd Street, across from another gay bar, Therapy." ([20])

Improved to Good Article status by Armadillopteryx (talk) and Another Believer (talk). Nominated by Armadillopteryx (talk) at 23:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: I am unable to review this since I am reviewing two GA nominations. However looking at the first hook, I think we can have an image of the front entrance. That way, it'll be like ...that Industry (pictured) replaced a parking garage? and then readers would look at the front entrance and be like: This used to be a parking garage? GeraldWL (Pine wish!) 05:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the fun/quirkiness of the first hook rests on the fact that the reader doesn't know what "Industry" refers to, as that word has many possible meanings in English. But, yes, there are pictures available if helpful. Armadillopteryx 18:27, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 12

Morgenglanz der Ewigkeit

  • ... that "Morgenglanz der Ewigkeit", a 17th-century morning hymn, was translated as "Come, Thou Bright and Morning Star", and as "Dayspring of Eternity"? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Jaffna Stallions in 2020

Created by Empire AS (talk). Self-nominated at 09:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Empire AS: I am not going to spend my time editing this as I did Galle Gladiators in 2020, but please look at my edits on that article to clarify the numbers you're using in the Season Summary here. Please link cricket terminology on the first mention, and avoid slang language, as in the very first sentence of the Season Summary. Thanks. Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dambulla Viiking in 2020

Created by DT Truth (talk). Nominated by Empire AS (talk) at 08:37, 16 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Colombo Kings in 2020

Created by Fade258 (talk). Nominated by Empire AS (talk) at 08:22, 16 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Galle Gladiators in 2020

Created by Tahaaleem (talk) Self-nominated at 20:08, 16 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has numerous cleanup tags on it. I have also struck ALT0 because we do not print unlinked names on the main page. Yoninah (talk) 20:07, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yoninah, thank you for reviewing, however I will ameliorate the article as soon as possible. Thank you. Tahaaleem Talk 20:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, the tags have been removed. So please can you view it again. Thank you. Tahaaleem Talk 09:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg OK. I read through the article and frankly, I understood nothing. I left tags at every place where you're talking about a number and not defining what that number means—balls? wickets? runs? Or what? It would help when you're writing these articles to link unfamiliar terms on their first mention, such as "batting", "bowling", "run rate", and "target". I also deleted the Squad and Administration sections, which belong in the 2020 season template at the bottom.
  • Regarding the hooks, ALT1 is practically a news report, not a hook. Shorter is always better. In ALT2, "LPL" is going to have to be spelled out, which is going to send the character count over the 200-character limit. As someone who knows nothing about cricket, this hook also doesn't make sense to me so I wouldn't want to click on it. In ALT3, same problem: if you don't know what a fifer is, the hook holds no interest. Try to write something that will appeal to an international, non-cricket audience. Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah, thank you for reviewing it again, however, I will clarify all the salient parts as soon as possible. Thank you. Tahaaleem Talk 21:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adolf Hitler (Calypso)

  • ... that Adolf Hitler was regarded as one of the finest calypsoes of the era?
    • ALT1:... that Cliff Morris won the Calypso King competition of 1941 with Adolf Hitler?

Created by Megalogastor (talk). Self-nominated at 20:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Review:
Formalities:
  • Prose size (text only): 1579 characters (267 words) (according to DYK standards this is not a stub)
  • Article created by Megalogastor on December 12, 2020
Hook and sourcing:
  • fewer than 200 characters
  • interesting
  • sourced
  • QPQ done

Status:  Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 10:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion needed as to will this be better off in IN:DYKAPRIL. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 10:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Excellent for April 1. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Jeromi Mikhael Please can you add {{subst:DYKtick}} to this review if it's approved? All DYKs need this specific tick for the bot to movem to the DYK approved page. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging The C of E as the main editor for April Fools DYK to see if this would qualify for an April Fools DYK hook.

Kirka Sharif

Created/expanded by Zakaria1978 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi Zakaria1978, welcome to DYK. This article is currently not eligible for DYK. It is a little under the minimum length of 1,500 characters of text and there are no citations for the "Mosque" section (the DYK rules are listed here for reference. If you can remedy this then I will happily take another look for you - Dumelow (talk) 07:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Nominator is no longer editing. Marking for closure as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 22:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dumelow and Yoninah, I am so sorry for the late response. I work in the medical field and I have been super busy at work because of the global pandamic. Had to be on call and do overtime the last few weeks. I added more references and content to the article. Please reconsider my DYK, I sincerely apologise for this. Again, my work became very stressful. As you know, the Global South on Ingenpedia is not well covered per Ingenpedia:IngenProject Countering systemic bias/Politics, and this religious site is very important to IN:Islam and IN:South Asia/IN:Central Asia. Please reconsider and kindly let me know what I need to do. Zakaria1978 ښه راغلاست (talk) 17:46, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kandy Tuskers in 2020

Created by Fade258 (talk). Nominated by CreativeNorth (talk) at 12:45, 12 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg The source reflects the hook, and the article appears appropriate, but the hook doesn't make sense to an average reader. Suggest something like: that the Sri Lankan Lanka Premier League cricket team the Kandy Tuskers is owned by Bollywood actor Sohail Khan? Sadads (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol confirmed.svg That looks right, lets go with ALT2, Sadads (talk) 21:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry, but none of the hooks are accurate because they make you think you're clicking on Kandy Tuskers, not an article about their 2020 season. Please write a different hook that clues the reader to the topic. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Yoninah: Sorry if I'm being annoying. But I've tried to make ALT3 less wordy and also added an ALT4. Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 17:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CreativeNorth: as I said above, these new hooks also make it seem like you're clicking on the team article, not the article about the 2020 season. I took a look at the article and gave it a complete copyedit. Please check to see that I understood what you were talking about (I know nothing about cricket) and then I will suggest an alt. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Yoninah: Thanks for the copyedit, in your opinion what would you suggest for a hook then. Thanks CreativeNorth (talk) 18:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yoninah, I've created 3 new ALTs (6, 7 and 8). What have you to say about them? Moreover, the most runs wasn't made by Dambulla's cricketer but by Galle' batsman. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 10:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Empire AS: Thanks for this, I've edited the hooks a bit to make them more hooky. @Yoninah: What do you think?
  • @CreativeNorth:@Empire AS: the new hooks are better. But what is a total? What is a target? You're writing for an international audience who may not know what you're referring to.
  • Regarding my request for sourcing on the Squads and Administrative charts, you'll see I removed them from the article because you have the squad members at least in the template below. Perhaps add the administrative members there and you won't need sourcing. Yoninah (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 13

Michael Gläser

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: Yes, he is at AfD as I write this. No more.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 18:43, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Magnificat (Hoffmann)

Manuscript of the flute part
Manuscript of the flute part
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: I could imagine this on 1 January to start a new year, on a Marian feast. I know you don't like sheet music pictured, and agree that you wouldn't see details, but this sheet helped the identification.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:27, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The image is in the public domain. Just waiting for the QPQ to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:07, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Troy, Montana

5x expanded by Originalmess (talk). Self-nominated at 04:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Mebrure Aksoley

  • ... that Turkish women's rights activist Mebrure Aksoley served in her political career of more than forty years in the parliament, Constituent Assembly and Senate? Source: "Türk Kadınları Birliği’nin 1949’da yeniden açılmasıiçinçalışmış ve Genel Başkanı olmuştur", "Aksoley 7. ve 8. Dönem Ankara Milletvekili olarak TBMM’ye girmiştir.", "Kurucu Meclis’in Temsilciler Meclisi’nde CHP temsilcisi olarak görev almıştır ", "Cumhuriyet Senatosu’nda,seçilmiş üye olarak bulunmuştu r" (in Turkish) [41], "C.H.P de 42 Yıllık Çalışmalarımdan Bazı Örnekler" (in Turkish) [42]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 13:04, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - There's plenty of career politicians around the planet, but Aksoley founded an elementary school before beginning her political career as a woman in 1928! That's really cool. How does something like "... that Turkish women's rights activist Mebrure Aksoley founded an elementary school before beginning a political career in 1928, serving for 40+ years in the parliament, Constituent Assembly and Senate?" sound?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg AGF on the foreign language sources originalmessbusta rhyme 04:57, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you think emphasis on the school opening is more interesting: CeeGee 07:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry if that wasn't helpful, I haven't done DYK in over a year. We can get a third opinion if that helps? originalmessbusta rhyme 07:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No problem. Maybe a "DYK?again"-tick would be helğful in this case. CeeGee 12:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

French ship Euryale (1863)

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 13 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svgArticle is new enough and long enough. I am a little concerned about how #4 is used, seems like we are analyzing a primary source (court ruling) there, even if it seems correct. I don't have access to the other sources. No copyvio or plagiarism that I can see. Each hook seems roughly equal to me, the third is perhaps the most interesting. Seems neutral and moderately interesting. QPQ is done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus, thanks for the review. I've tightened the wording of the article a little to make it clear that the statements are taken from the court records. I think we are OK to use the proceedings of the court this way as long as it is clearly attributed. I am happy to get other opinions on this - Dumelow (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No comments so far. I'll see if Fram has an opinion on the matter, but if no problems subsist we can probably approve this one. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:20, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 14

Sunny Lam

  • ... that Sunny Lam, a Hong Kong singer-songwriter, performed a love song with Siri?

    Source:

    • 楊羨庭 (2019-05-18). "Siri陪毒毒唱情歌？　音樂人晴天林搵Siri合唱《會過去的》超爆笑" [Siri sings love songs with poison? Musician Sunny Lam and Siri sing "It Will Pass" together. Super hilarious.] (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2020-12-14. Retrieved 2020-12-14.
      The article notes: "Siri陪毒毒唱情歌？ ... 晴天林在2010年創立個人fb專頁「晴天林 Sunny Lam」，不時分享其原創及翻唱作品，前日（16日）他在fb專頁及YouTube頻道上載影片，分享自己與Siri合唱許志安和車婉婉的《會過去的》，他笑指自己經常「毒毒咁自己做音樂」，想找人跟他合唱並非易事，所以就找到「成日陪住我嘅Siri BB」唱出這首經典合唱歌。"
      From Google Translate: "Siri sings a love song with a single guy? ... Sunny Lam started his Facebook page "晴天林 Sunny Lam" in 2010 where he shares his original and cover works from time to time. The day before yesterday (the 16th) he uploaded videos to his Facebook page and YouTube channel, sharing his joint singing performance with Siri of Fish Leong and Andy Hui's song "It Will Pass" (Chinese: 會過去的). He laughed that he often "makes music by himself" and it is not easy to find someone to sing with, so he found "Siri BB who always is with me" to sing this classic song.

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 08:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Taxodium dubium

Miocene Taxodium dubium fossil
Miocene Taxodium dubium fossil

Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 01:24, 14 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 15

Black Focus

  • ... that after releasing the album Black Focus, the band Yussef Kamaal were denied entry to the United States because of the Trump Administration? [2]

Improved to Good Article status by 100cellsman (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Will do a full review if we get this sorted but I immediately have some concerns over this Trump Administration content. It should be "denied entry ... by the Trump Administration", not "because of", for neutrality. I'm also a bit confused as to what actually happened here. Is the source referring to the Trump travel ban (possibly Executive Order 13780 specifically)? If so, I think the appropriate links and maybe some more explanation in the article is needed (without veering into original research). Are there any other sources on this subject? It would be helpful to know what specific rule prohibited the group from entry, as I don't see a part of the travel ban which would affect British citizens, or is that information not known? — Bilorv (talk) 00:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They were unable to tour because one of the members, Yussef Dayes, had his visa revoked under the executive order. I wasn't sure how to word this because it would have seemed too long. 웃OO 02:34, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand this part. You can change "because of" to "by" or use the alt below:
  • ALT1: ... that after releasing the album Black Focus, Yussef Kamaal were denied entry to the United States because one of the members had their visa revoked by the Trump Administration?
But what I don't understand is what executive order revoked Dayes' visa and what part of the order would do that? (Is he not a British citizen? What category did he fall into that had new visa restrictions?) — Bilorv (talk) 09:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dayes is British, and unfortunately, I couldn't find precise details regarding the ban. The sources I looked into state that they were just "(New) Executive Order(s)". A travel ban if anything. Thinking about it, I made a mistake to nominate this statement as a DYK. There's not much factual context that would be good for a hook and one would have to get to know the band first to understand the story. Plus it seems like bad taste to use this fact to speak for an album. 웃OO 10:12, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I see, no more information is available. I think the original hook with "because of" replaced to "by" or my suggestion ALT1 would both work as fine hooks—hooks are often teasers to get people to read about the subject and don't need to be representative of the topic as a whole. But if you want to withdraw the nomination then I can reject it for you. Either way, thanks for your work in getting this article to GA status. — Bilorv (talk) 10:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You made a good point, we can carry on with the nomination. I do think ALT 1 is better than what I typed up. 웃OO 06:23, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Was promoted to GA and has sufficient length and (inline) sourcing, no QPQ needed (1 credit), no copyvio that I can detect (Earwig just shows sites copying Ingenpedia). I've been stung before so pinging Yoninah for an opinion on whether we need someone else to review ALT1 (since I suggested it) or if I'm fine to approve it (since it's the same fact with the same sourcing as ALT0). — Bilorv (talk) 15:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ↑ Z.H. Archibald (1998): "The Odrysian Kingdom of Thrace. Orpheus Unmasked". p. 3
  2. ↑ "Yussef Kamaal and United Vibrations barred from entering America". Jazz FM. Archived from the original on 7 October 2018. Retrieved 3 October 2018.

Julie V. Iovine

Created by JGHowes (talk). Self-nominated at 17:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Herman Asaribab

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 10:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As all sources are foreign-language, unable to check for close paraphrasing. Images are freely licensed. QPQ done.
  • I don't think the hook wording accomplishes what you want. Since flag officer is not linked, one would think that it is a lowly position. Why else would he need financial support? Also, it would be helpful to the reader to add more to the article on this subject so he sees more than is in the hook. Can you add any more to the article from the source to indicate why the governor's offer was notable or why he needed to offer support? Yoninah (talk) 20:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Year 24 Group

  • ... that prior to the arrival of the Year 24 Group, most girls' comics in Japan were written by men? Source: "La bande dessinée japonaise pour filles et pour femmes"
    • ALT1:... that Japanese girls' comics saw a period of innovation and development in the 1970s as a result of the influence of the Year 24 Group? Source: "Shojo Manga! Girls' Comics! A Mirror of Girls' Dreams
    • ALT2:... that Japanese girls' comics in the 1970s expanded to incorporate adventure fiction, horror, fantasy, and same-sex romance as a result of the influence of the Year 24 Group? Source: "Shojo Manga! Girls' Comics! A Mirror of Girls' Dreams
    • ALT3:... that the impact of the Year 24 Group has been alternately compared to the discovery of interiority in early Meiji fiction and the rise of New Wave cinema? Source: "The Revolution in 1970s Shōjo Manga"

5x expanded by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

SS Jarvis Lord

Jarvis Lord in Point Edward, Ontario
Jarvis Lord in Point Edward, Ontario
  • Reviewed: Butler Building
  • Comment: I prefer the lead hook. Article is a work in progress.

Created by GreatLakesShips (talk). Self-nominated at 01:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi GreatLakesShips, this article cannot currently be featured in the DYK section. Per the standard rules the text must be of minimum 1,500 characters length (I count around 1,200 here) and each paragraph (as a minimum) must have an inline citation. If you can expand the article a little and add some citations I'd be more than happy to take another look - Dumelow (talk) 12:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, let me know when you're done. Sorry, I messed up with the formatting earlier that hid some of my comments; now fixed - Dumelow (talk) 13:28, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dumelow: Is this enough for the time being? Of course it is still a work in progress, but I should complete the article soon. GreatLakesShips (talk) 17:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi GreatLakesShips, the article is coming along excellently. I'm more than happy to wait for you to fill out the remaining sections before review, there's no deadline - Dumelow (talk) 17:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 16

Simping

Created by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 12:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Review follows:
    • New? Yes. Nominated 23 December; created 17 December.
    • Long enough? Yes. 7,000+ characters.
    • Enough cites? Yes. Passes the 1+ cite per graf test.
    • Hook cited? Possibly. Main hook appears as a blockquote in the article, but I don't quite see cowardice described in the source. Maybe "criticizing simps", although that's less punchy. Alt1 is fully cited, and only slightly less punchy.
    • Hooks short enough? Yes.
    • Copyright? Fine. Earwig initially looked chancy but it's just quotes.
    • QPQ: Done.
    • Other? I don't quite see the utility of the big blockquote beginning "He's from Michigan", but that's not a problem for DYK. The Twitch section may also be a bit IN:UNDUE, but I'm not that up on online happenings so it may well be DUE. I leave that to you.

Overall: just waiting for a little clarity on the main hook; I'd be fine with Alt1 too. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agreed that it's a fair summary on taking another look. I actually still prefer Alt1 (Archie more recognizable than an anonymous letter-writer, and "simpiest of the simps" has a nice ring to it). Main/alt2 also fine; will leave it up to the promoter. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Heart of Thomas

  • ... that the live-action film adaptation of the manga series The Heart of Thomas stars actresses in breeches roles playing schoolboys whose dialogue is dubbed over by voice actors? Source: "Girlie Sexuality: When Flat Girls Become Three-Dimensional"

Improved to Good Article status by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 17

History of Atalanta B.C.

  • Reviewed: 2019 U.S. Open Cup Final
  • Comment: I created this article by translating from Italian Ingenpedia, and have been working to expand it further and add more sources (half of the original had minimal sourcing). A few citations still need to be added in various spots, but the hooks and their context are cited. I apologize in advance that most sources are in Italian; they are quite difficult to locate in English, but can be easily validated using Google Translate. QPQ is old, but my oldest for which I have not submitted a DYK nomination. I will continue working on sourcing in the meantime.

Created by ComplexRational (talk). Self-nominated at 20:07, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Ümit Şamiloğlu

  • ... that Turkish artistic gymnast Ümit Şamiloğlu is the creator of a special grip in the horizontal bar event named after him? Source: "'The Şamiloğlu' hareketinin çıkış noktası şöyle; barfikste dünyanın bilinen bir sporcusuyum.", "Bir önceki başarısı, adına tescillenen ‘The Samiloglu’ hareketiydi." (in Turkish) [43]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 11:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

It's Elementary: Talking About Gay Issues in School

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:20, 18 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 18

Wolfgang Marschner

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 23:41, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender

Converted from a redirect by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 21:52, 23 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Khalili Collection of Aramaic Documents

Aramaic document from the Khalili Collection
Aramaic document from the Khalili Collection

Moved to mainspace by MartinPoulter (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Helen Bekele Tola

  • ... that Ethiopian runner Helen Bekele Tola has stated a desire to compete for Switzerland at the 2020 Summer Olympics? Source: [44] "Et son objectif n’est nul autre, à cette heure, de représenter son pays d’adoption aux prochains Jeux Olympiques de Tokyo" ("And her goal is none other, at this time, than to represent her adopted country at the next Olympic Games in Tokyo.")
    • ALT1:... that Ethiopian runner Helen Bekele Tola came second at the 2019 Tokyo Marathon? Source: [45] "La etíope Helen Bekele Tola, segunda en el maratón de Tokio y cuarta en Berlín este 2019" ("Ethiopian Helen Bekele Tola, second in the Tokyo marathon and fourth in Berlin this 2019")

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:55, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Iti Tyagi

Moved to mainspace by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 15:00, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Cincinnati Marine Hospital

The first Cincinnati Marine Hospital building in 1896
The first Cincinnati Marine Hospital building in 1896

5x expanded by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on December 19

Just Mercy (book)

Stevenson in 2012
Stevenson in 2012

Moved to mainspace by Footlessmouse (talk). Self-nominated at 18:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

GPT-2

  • ... that the artificial intelligence program GPT-2 can summarize, respond to, generate, and even translate human-level writing, despite being trained to do nothing more than predict the next word in a sequence? Source: OpenAI paper, ref in article
    • ALT1: ... that ...

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Izaac Hindom

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Conopea galeata
  • Comment: This specific hook is interesting because it is rare to see someone advising four different presidents with a very different characteristics (from the dictator Suharto to the much more democratic successive presidents).

5x expanded by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Ma Xiang

  • ... that Chinese bandit Ma Xiang raised a thousands-strong rebel army in just one or two days, conquered three commanderies, and declared himself emperor, only to be killed by a much weaker opponent? (Source: Farmer, J. Michael (2005). "The Three Chaste Ones of Ba: Local Perspectives on the Yellow Turban Rebellion on the Chengdu Plain". Journal of the American Oriental Society. 125 (2), p. 193-194)
  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 22:28, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Alexe Gaudreault

  • ... that in 2015 Alexe Gaudreault became the first independent artist to top the BDS charts in 15 years?
    Source 1: [48]
    English translation: "The first position for so long is quite an achievement! Alexe Gaudreault is the first independent artist to have reached # 1 of the top 100 BDS, the charts of French-speaking radio stations, over the past 15 years."
    Original French: "La première position pendant si longtemps, c’est tout un exploit! Alexe Gaudreault est la première artiste indépendante à avoir atteint le #1 du top 100 BDS, le palmarès des radios francophones, au cours des 15 dernières années."
    Source 2: [49]
    English Translation: "This single ended up at number 1 on the list of the 100 best French-speaking BDS songs ... for seven consecutive weeks! This is a first in 15 years for an independent artist."
    Original French: "Cet extrait s'est retrouvé au numéro 1 du palmarès des 100 meilleures chansons francophones BDS... pendant sept semaines consécutives! C'est une première en 15 ans pour une artiste indépendante."

  • Reviewed: Hilda Annetta Walker
  • Comment: I do not know French, and all the sources I found were in French. I used my browser's translate function, but if anyone who knows French could review, that would be great! Also, not sure if the status should be "new" or "BLP expanded"; it was a newly-created article with no sources that I found and expanded with sources.

Created/expanded by EdGl (talk). Self-nominated at 22:24, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

You Jump, I Jump, Jack

Created by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 22:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Brian Crabtree

  • ... that Kendo Nagasaki once refused to wrestle Big Daddy Shirley Crabtree with his brother Brian Crabtree refereeing? Source: New Society : The Social Science Weekly. Vol. 41-42. 1977. p. 628. ISSN 0028-6729

Created by Copper1993 (talk) and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 09:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Olive Whitlock Klump

Moved to mainspace by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) and Jaireeodell (talk). Nominated by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) at 02:25, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Harper Pass

Harper Pass in 2014
Harper Pass in 2014
  • ... that Harper Pass (pictured), a remote hiking trail crossing of the Southern Alps / Kā Tiritiri o te Moana in New Zealand, was once the most important overland connection between Canterbury and the West Coast? Source: Canterbury Centennial Association (1971). Gardner, Jim (ed.). A History of Canterbury : General History, 1854–76 and Cultural Aspects, 1850–1950. II. Christchurch: Whitcombe and Tombs Ltd. ISBN 0 7233 0321 5, pages 136–141
  • Reviewed: Speibecken
  • Comment: I found the photo on Flickr, asked for the license to be changed to a free one, and offered to blur the face of the person; the photographer changed the license as requested but did not ask for the face to be blurred.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:32, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Made in Canada

  • ... that the certification mark Product of Canada may be used for a good if at least 98% of all direct costs to create it are incurred in Canada? Source: "The Competition Bureau requires that at least 98 per cent of a good’s total direct costs of production or manufacturing are incurred in Canada before that good can be legally advertised as a "Product of Canada."" (Made in Canada or Product of Canada? There's a difference)

Moved to mainspace by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 22:55, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: please note that there was a previous DYK about Made in Canada, but it was about the television series (Made in Canada (TV series), not the product labelling certification mark. See also Ingenpedia talk:Did you know#Previous DYK article to be moved Mindmatrix 22:58, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: there is a request to move this article to a different name. Results of the DYK review should be suspended until that discussion resolves. Mindmatrix 22:45, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: I did some expansion of the article, so it might be a good idea to hold a full review for a bit. I think the only major missing content is how "Made in Canada" is received internationally. Everything else seems sourced and just needs a bit of layout and tidying. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:18, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that journalist Frédéric Choinière lived for a year on Made in Canada goods? Source: The Globe and Mail: "French-Canadian journalist and TV host Frédéric Choinière ... decided to embark on a challenge of living for one year exclusively on Canadian goods ... As his made-in-Canada experiment winds down, Choinière says what he's learned over the year is that incorporating Canadian-made goods into his lifestyle was easier than he thought it would be"

Allochronic speciation

  • ... that the timing of reproduction (such as breeding season in animals or the timing of flowering in plants) can cause the formation of a new species in a process known as allochronic speciation? Coyne & Orr (2004)

Created by Andrew Z. Colvin (talk). Self-nominated at 20:36, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Red XN - This appears to be your fifth DYK nomination, but I don't see a QPQ. Am I missing something?
Overall: Symbol question.svg I think the one about cicadas and 221-year cycles is much more interesting, but either could be fine. jp×g 05:12, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adi Utarini

Adi Utarini
Adi Utarini
  • ... that the Indonesian scientist Adi Utarini (pictured) found that releasing Wolbachia-carrying mosquitoes reduced dengue cases by 77% in a randomized controlled trial?
    Source: "Utarini and her colleagues have managed to cut cases of dengue fever by 77% in parts of a large Indonesian city by releasing mosquitoes that had been modified to stop them from transmitting the virus... The project was the first randomized controlled trial — the gold standard in clinical research — of a completely new approach to controlling dengue. The technique breeds Aedes aegypti mosquitoes, which transmit the dengue, ..., such that they carry a bacterium called Wolbachia. The bacterium subdues the viruses and prevents the mosquitoes from passing them on to humans. Eggs from the modified mosquitoes are then placed around the city, often in people’s homes." Nature)
    • ALT1:... that Adi Utarini (pictured) seeks to fight dengue by releasing mosquitoes in a large city? Ref: Same as above. Maybe for April Fools' Day
    • ALT2:... that Adi Utarini (pictured) was listed as one of Nature's 10 in 2020 after she released infected mosquitoes all over Yogyakarta? Ref: Same as above. Maybe for April Fools' Day. "Infected" here refers to infection by Wolbachia

Created/expanded by Jesswade88 (talk) and HaEr48 (talk). Nominated by HaEr48 (talk) at 21:16, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: Checking if Juxlos (Indonesian bio DYK hook expert Face-smile.svg ) has a better hook idea, given that the approach of the subject's research is quite interesting. HaEr48 (talk) 21:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 20

Conopea galeata

  • ... that although the soft coral Leptogorgia virgulata exudes protective substances to prevent other organisms growing on it, the barnacle Conopea galeata overcomes these defences?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:44, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Review:
Formalities:
  • Prose size (text only): 1795 characters (290 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article created by Cwmhiraeth on December 20, 2020
  • Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 8 edits ago on December 20, 2020
Hook and sourcing:
  • fewer than 200 characters
  • interesting (see concerns)
  • sourced
  • QPQ done
Concerns:
  • Interesting: CMIIW, Hook describes a symbiosis process between Leptogorgia virgulata and Conopea galeata. These kinds of symbiosis (an organism that bypasses another organism's defence mechanism) is common in real life, such as cats that could jump over fences built by humans to kept other organisms away and humans that eat chili because chili is spicy, although the chili's spiciness is intended as a defence mechanism. Please explain to me how this specific symbiosis would be interesting to readers. Thank you and merry Christmas. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:16, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Overall:Symbol question.svg Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:16, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry that you are uninterested in what I consider a fascinating topic. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:15, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm interested in this topic. The problem is could you assure that the reader would also perceive this as interesting as we do? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 02:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

White House tennis court

Obama in 2009
Obama in 2009

Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 17:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

2021 Moroccan general election

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 07:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg @JPxG: New enough and long enough expansion. QPQ present. No textual issues. However, given that I approved a similar hook for 2021 Chadian presidential election, can we find another? (Potentially in characterizations of the reversal of democratic reforms due to COVID) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:32, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Master of the Lille Adoration

Detail of Adoration of the Magi by the Master
Detail of Adoration of the Magi by the Master
  • ... that the existence of the painter called the Master of the Lille Adoration (painting detail pictured), active in 16th-century Antwerp, was only proposed in 1995? "While the attribution to Vellert of these works had already been challenged in the past, Konowitz argued convincingly in her article of 1995 that the paintings differ significantly from Vellert’s secure works in other media. She showed that they are more closely linked to paintings by the Antwerp Mannerists than to Vellert. She attributed these and a few other paintings to the Master of the Lille Adoration, who derives his name from The Adoration of the Shepherds in the Musée des Beaux-Arts in Lille." from the Rijksmuseum: Filedt Kok,J.P., "'Master of the Lille Adoration, The Holy Kinship, c. 1520 – c. 1530", in J.P. Filedt Kok (ed.), Early Netherlandish Paintings, online coll. cat. Amsterdam 2010: hdl.handle.net/10934/RM0001.COLLECT.6388 (accessed 21 December 2020), online
    • ALT1:... that the unknown 16th-century painter of the Adoration of the Magi (detail pictured) was first called the Master of the Lille Adoration in 1995? Source: (as above)

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 13:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Well-written and interesting article. Painting is Public Domain, of course, and is ideal for DYK feature on Epiphany, January 6. DYK nom meets requirements for 5x expansion. @Johnbod: here's an Alt1 hook for consideration.  JGHowes  talk 15:04, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Darwin's Darkest Hour

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I Am the Best

2NE1
2NE1
  • ... that 2NE1's (pictured) "I Am the Best" topped the Billboard World Digital Songs chart after being featured in a Microsoft commercial? Source: [52]
    • ALT1:... that the song "I Am the Best" by 2NE1 (pictured) topped the Billboard World Digital Songs chart three years after it was released because it was used in a Microsoft commercial? Source: [53]
    • ALT2:... that "I Am the Best" by 2NE1 (pictured) topped the Billboard World Digital Songs chart three years after it was released and became the first K-pop group to do so because it was used in a Microsoft commercial? Source: [54]

Improved to Good Article status by Nkon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 21

clouded leopard

Captive clouded leopard
Captive clouded leopard

Improved to Good Article status by BhagyaMani (talk). Self-nominated at 14:16, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Aetia (Callimachus)

Papyrus fragment of the Aetia
Papyrus fragment of the Aetia
  • ... that an episode from Callimachus' Aetia (fragment pictured) became the model for a poem by Alexander Pope after being translated by Catullus? Source: The episode was long known in only a few Greek quotations and more fully through a Latin translation in Catullus 66, which provided the model for Pope’s ‘‘Rape of the Lock.’’ Gutzwiller (2007) 67.
    • ALT1:... that Callimachus' Aetia (fragment pictured) explains how a lock of hair became an astronomical constellation? Source: Here, in the voice of the Lock herself a tale as bizarre as it is appealing. It begins with Conon, an ast mathematician who lived in Alexandria at the time of the third he, she says, who first saw her, a lock of hair from the Queens brightly in the sky. Then, in a flashback, the Lock explains how Shortly after Berenice's marriage to the King, her husband went to war. His Queen, in a frenzy of anxiety and despair at his absence, vowed to the gods that she would sacrifice a lock of her hair if her husband returned safely. [...] The lock was dedicated at the Temple of Arsinoe-Zephyritis, and promptly disappeared. Even as she tells the tale, the Lock is beside herself with grief. She bemoans her absence from Berenices beloved head and melodramatically recounts the trauma of being swept from the temple by Zephyr into the sea and then up to the sky among the other constellations. [...] It was her compatriot and contemporary, Callimachus of Cyrene, who wrote the original "Lock" that Catullus translated into Latin and coopted for his own literary agenda. Clayman (2011) 229-30

Created by Modussiccandi (talk). Self-nominated at 23:13, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

David Williamson (minister)

  • ... that alongside marrying seven times, David Williamson is said to have been the first clergyman in Scotland to own a watch? Source: "His was not a patriarchal age, hence it is somewhat startling to learn that he was married no fewer than seven times. [...] It is recorded of him that he was the first clergyman in Scotland who carried a watch." (Lorimer, George (1915). 'The Early Days of St Cuthbert's Church, Edinburgh'. William Blackwood & Sons. pp. 48-49.)
    • ALT1:... that David Williamson is said to have been the first clergyman in Scotland to own a watch? Source: "It is recorded of him that he was the first clergyman in Scotland who carried a watch." (Lorimer, George (1915). 'The Early Days of St Cuthbert's Church, Edinburgh'. William Blackwood & Sons. p. 49.)

Created by CPClegg (talk). Self-nominated at 21:07, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Please bold & link the article above! New, long & neutral enuf. The watch hook sort of checks out (AGF on source) but the note casts doubt on it - no one at the time seems actually to have said this. There are plenty of alternatives - transvestite episode in bed with future daughter in law.... and others. Earwig finds nothing. Johnbod (talk) 08:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Duo Yun Xuan

Duo Yun Xuan located in Nanjing East Road in Shanghai
Duo Yun Xuan located in Nanjing East Road in Shanghai

Created by Jujiang (talk). Self-nominated at 16:18, 21 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Ink wash painting

Liang Kai (Chinese: 梁楷), Drunken Celestial (Chinese: 潑墨仙人)
Liang Kai (Chinese: 梁楷), Drunken Celestial (Chinese: 潑墨仙人)

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk) and Jujiang (talk). Nominated by Jujiang (talk) at 15:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 22

Stephen Borthwick (schoolmaster), Epsom College in Malaysia

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 16:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Note Fram has started an AfD, I suggest this can be left on hold until that has been dealt with. Moonraker (talk) 17:08, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Myth of the Zodiac Killer

Police sketch of a person purported to be the Zodiac Killer
Police sketch of a person purported to be the Zodiac Killer
  • Reviewed: Forthcoming

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 06:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough (created 12/22), long enough, and cited appropriately. Earwig detected no concerns. The hook is short enough, interesting, and accurately sourced. Photo license states it is PD. QPQ remains to be done. Cbl62 (talk) 18:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WWBC

  • ... that radio station WWBC in Cocoa, Florida, was forced to remove its transmitter tower from the Indian River when the site was sold to condominium developers? Source: [56]

5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Fujiyama Mama

  • ... that Wanda Jackson's 1957 record "Fujiyama Mama", described as "the ultimate Virile Female metaphor", was a No. 1 hit in Japan? Source 1: Maruy Dean, Rock 'n' Roll Gold Ruch, p 149 (""Wanda Jackson offers us the ultimate Virile Female metaphor here."). Source 2: Keaveney, "Western Rock Artists, Madame Butterfly, and the Allure of Japan", pp. 24–25 (discussing No. 1 hit status in Japan)
    • ALT1:... that "Fujiyama Mama", an American rockabilly song that compared a woman's energy to the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, was a No. 1 hit in Japan in 1958?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:37, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Wow, this is one record I did not know about. Article creation and filing date okay, article length okay. Article sourcing and neutrality good, no evident signs of copyvio. Hook length okay, sourcing verified in book view online, neutrality okay. The 'Virile Female metaphor' part of the hook has good interest, but to me the real interest is that a song which explicitly references the atomic bombings of Japan in multiple places in its lyric became a prolonged number one hit in Japan only 13 years after the event. Maybe that could be worked into the hook as well, or given as an ALT1 for the DYK promoter to choose between? Also, QPQ still pending. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Wasted Time R: Thanks for the review. I added the QPQ and an alt per your suggestion. Glad you were introduced Fujiyama Mama - if you haven't already done so, have a listen -- it really rocks. Cbl62 (talk) 18:28, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I listened to it right after reading the article and yes it really does rock. QPQ now done. ALT1 is okay except that it says it was a No. 1 hit in 1959, whereas the article says 1958. Looking at some of the sources in the footnotes, I see various statements regarding dates and length of stay at the top. It would be good to get specifics on this – on such-and-such a chart, it reached number one in the week of some date and remained there through the week of some other date. But I don't know where those specifics would be. There is an article on the Oricon Singles Chart, but that did not begin until 1967. I did a brief search for Japanese music charts in the 1950s but didn't see anything. The skeptic in me is wondering if there even was a Japanese pop music chart during the late 1950s and if not, exactly what the statement about its popularity is based on. Wasted Time R (talk) 22:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Wasted Time R: I fixed the year in alt 1, which was just my typo. As for the song being a No. 1 hit on the Japanese chart, there are multiple reliable sources for confirmation, including: (1) Christopher T. Keaveney (2020). Western Rock Artists, Madame Butterfly, and the Allure of Japan. Lexington Books. p. 24 ("'Fujiyama Mama' became a hit in Japan, where it reached number one in 1958 ..."); and (2) Mina Carson; Tisa Lewis; Susan M. Shaw (2004). Girls Rock! Fifty Years of Women Making Music. University Press of Kentucky. p. 2 ("'Fujiyama Mama' was a big hit in Japan, staying at number one there for six months"). Cbl62 (talk) 02:58, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Cbl62: Do you have Ingenpedia Library access to Newspapers.com? If so, take a look at these results for "Fujiyama Mama" from 1954 through 1960. My takeaways: 1) the Annisteen Allen recording had a somewhat bigger impact in the U.S. than the article currently indicates; 2) the Annisteen Allen recording itself was heard in Japan and was a hit there in 1955; 3) Armed Forces Radio wouldn't play it in 1958, on the (apparently mistaken) grounds it would offend the Japanese; 4) yes, the Wanda Jackson recording was a big hit in Japan, probably from fall 1958 and into 1959; and 5) the Wanda Jackson recording was very popular among U.S. service personnel stationed there. Wasted Time R (talk) 14:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 23

Ekaterina Andreeva (arachnologist)

Created by Less Unless (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 05:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article requirements for length and newness are met, QPQ has been done. For some odd reason, Earwigs is detecting an over 90% match but it seems to be a weird false positive as there's no actual common material. Hook is cited inline and verified, but the reference comes in the sentence after the one about the hook fact, and not the hook fact sentence itself. The nomination will be approved once this is resolved. As an aside, a possible alternate hook suggestion could be to mention that the subject's mother helped edit the monograph. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:23, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

George Smith (civil servant)

  • ... that during Sir George Smith's term as Governor of Nyasaland the area of land used for the cultivation of tea, cotton and tobacco increased one hundredfold? "It is stated that the acreage under tea, cotton and tobacco has been increased more than a hundredfold in Nyasaland during the ten years of Sir George Smith's Governorship." from: "Editorial Notes". African Affairs. XXII (LXXXVIII): 333. 1 July 1923. doi:10.1093/oxfordjournals.afraf.a100080.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 23 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Purandara Dasa

A painting of Purandar Dasa from Mysore Palace
A painting of Purandar Dasa from Mysore Palace
  • Comment: Please save this nomination until 2 January 2021 so it can be on the main page for his Death Day!

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk) and MRRaja001 (talk). Nominated by MRRaja001 (talk) at 17:28, 22 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 24

Yule Ranch

the low water crossing with concrete box culverts
the low water crossing with concrete box culverts

Created/expanded by Epiphyllumlover (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Riot Games

Source: “We originally just wanted to be a game developer, but then when we talked to publishers at the time they were like, ‘Wait, you’re not going to have single player (gameplay) and you want the game to be free and virtual? What are you talking about?” Merrill said. — https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2019/10/27/league-legends-is-now-years-old-this-is-story-its-birth/

    • ALT1:... that the senior leadership of Riot Games were accused of circulating lists among themselves about which of their female employees they would sleep with?

Source: "Another said a colleague once informed her, apparently as a compliment, that she was on a list getting passed around by senior leaders detailing who they’d sleep with." — https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483

  • Comment: Hi there! Riot Games is my most recent GA. I agonised over the wording of both of these. I think the first is more straightforward, whereas the second is somewhat inflammatory. Open to any and all feedback on the wording of either, and to alternative hooks. This one has been really difficult (and I'm really new to the process). In advance, thanks so much to any reviewers!

Improved to Good Article status by ImaginesTigers (talk). Self-nominated at 00:48, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Millie Lovelock

Created by Road to Oblivion (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Paper Mario: Color Splash

  • Reviewed: 4th nomination, QPQ exempt

Created/expanded by Le Panini (talk). Self-nominated at 04:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The Autistic Brain

  • ... that in the book The Autistic Brain, author Temple Grandin suggests that the rise in autism diagnoses has been due to an inaccurate definition in the DSM-5 grouping other conditions under the term? Source 1: "Grandin also complains about the danger of labels. We learn how the autism diagnosis has dandled through the different versions of the DSM, so that one individual labelled as Asperger in 1980 will be labelled in the autistic spectrum today." International Journal of Educational Psychology, and Source 2: "In one fascinating digression, the authors suggest that an error in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders might have been responsible for the sharp rise in diagnoses: An “or” that should have been an “and” might have led thousands of doctors to misapply the label." Smithsonian Magazine

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Bru McCoy

  • ... that Bru McCoy transferred from USC to the University of Texas and back to USC in less than six months? [60]
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Odrysian kingdom
  • Comment: Hook fact is not quite in the inline text at the moment. He transferred in January 2019 and then back in June 2019, so it is factual, though it doesn't explicity say "less than six months". There may be a better hook that I can think of.

Created/expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 02:49, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Snow Halation

Created by Juhachi (talk). Self-nominated at 01:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

John Clark Mayden

Created by JGHowes (talk). Self-nominated at 23:17, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The Ur-Quan Masters

  • ... that The Ur-Quan Masters is celebrated as one of the best free games, as an open source remake of Star Control II, a science fiction game widely considered one of the greatest games of all time? Source: "The Ur-Quan Masters has been included on several best games lists since its release." / "Journalists have listed Star Control among their best games of all time,[10] with Star Control II earning even more "best game" rankings through the 1990s,[11] 2000s,[12] and 2010s.[13]"

Improved to Good Article status by Shooterwalker (talk) and Jovanmilic97 (talk). Nominated by Shooterwalker (talk) at 19:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

2008 FA Cup Final

  • Reviewed: Pending

Improved to Good Article status by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 10:17, 24 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 25

Vilma Núñez

Núñez in 2016
Núñez in 2016
  • ... that growing up, Vilma Núñez (pictured), now president of the Nicaraguan Center for Human Rights, struggled to find a school that would admit her as a child born out of wedlock? Source: "She and her mother showed up at a nun’s school and sadly for Vilma, they would not accept her. The reason: she was the daughter of unmarried parents." (La Prensa)
    • ALT1:... that discrimination Vilma Núñez (pictured) experienced as a child born out of wedlock motivated her career as a human rights activist and attorney? Source: Under a section entitled “Victim of Discrimination”, there’s the above anecdote and then adds “Other events that pushed Vilma Núñez to first, study law and then to become a human rights defender” including the unjust manner of disbursing her father’s bequest to her side of the family (La Prensa)

Moved to mainspace by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Paper Mario: Sticker Star

  • Reviewed: 5th nomination, QPQ exempt

Created/expanded by Le Panini (talk). Self-nominated at 05:28, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) v Vavilov

  • Comment: I deliberately didn't say "spies" in the main hook, even though the sources use that term, because I'm not sure if they actually did any spying, per se. Not averse to "spies" if the reviewer thinks it's better.
  • Reviewed: Simping

Created by AleatoryPonderings (talk). Self-nominated at 04:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 26

Ingrid Bergman performances

Lobby poster from Casablanca
Lobby poster from Casablanca

5x expanded by Maile66 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Dana expeditions

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:08, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Södermanland runic inscription 140

Created by Berig (talk). Self-nominated at 15:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg This looks like your first DYK -- congratulations! There is one paragraph without an inline citation. I think this is cool! jp×g 17:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vadakkekara Grama Panchayat

Created by Path slopu (talk). Self-nominated at 12:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Telefe Mar del Plata

  • ... that the Argentine government took over operations of television channel 8 at Mar del Plata in 1973, only to privatize it again a decade later? Source: various

Created by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Shanti Stupa

Shanti Stupa in Delhi
Shanti Stupa in Delhi

Created by Anupam (talk). Self-nominated at 05:52, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This seems to be a good start, but it’s only about half as long as the DYK minimum of 1,500 characters. Anupam, I’ll review this more fully when you have got it up to the size needed, please ping me then. Moonraker (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minoru Makihara

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

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